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Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

What is spec-driven development?

Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Thoughtworks

Technology, Careers, Business

4.558 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Semantic diffusion, combined with the pace of technology change, makes talking about AI-adjacent practices and techniques incredibly diffficult. There are few better examples of this issue than the term 'spec-driven development'. Although it's not new — its coinage precedes our current AI moment — it has become ubiquitous over the last six months or so as software professionals attempt to develop a vocabulary for talking about how they're developing methods for working successfully with coding agents.

On this episode of the Technology Podcast, Birgitta Böckeler is joined by Laura Tacho — Developer Experience at AWS — to discuss all things spec-driven development. From competing definitions to different interpretations, implementations and workflows, the discussion provides a frank and grounded look at one of the most discussed and debated terms in modern software engineering.

Learn more about Laura's work by visiting her website: https://lauratacho.com/

Read Birgitta's article on spec-driven development on Martin Fowler's website: https://martinfowler.com/articles/exploring-gen-ai/sdd-3-tools.html

Learn more about The Future of Software Development Retreat discussed on this episode and explore some of the key insights: https://www.thoughtworks.com/about-us/events/the-future-of-software-development

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everybody and welcome to the ThoughtWorks Technology podcast. My name is Begeta Buechila. I'm a distinguished

0:14.4

engineer at ThoughtWorks and a regular, sometimes hosts, sometimes guests on this podcast. And today,

0:20.4

it's just me and one other

0:22.4

person that I'll have a conversation with. And I'm very happy to have Laura Taho here today

0:28.0

to talk to me about spec-driven development. Laura is the former CTO of DX and recently joined

0:34.1

AWS as a senior principal technologist. Hi, Laura. Thanks for taking time to talk to me.

0:41.3

Hello. Very nice that we've been talking about doing a podcast for a couple of years now.

0:45.7

And it's finally worked out. It's glad. I'm glad to be here. Yeah. And we'll have a conversation

0:51.6

today about spec driven development. I have a conversation today about spec-driven development.

0:55.3

I have a bit of history with that topic because when it first kind of started getting traction

1:02.0

was around October, September October last year, and I wrote up my observations of what I was

1:08.7

seeing and that memo on Martin Farler's website actually

1:12.6

still to this day, eight months later, gets a lot of traffic.

1:16.6

But I actually personally have been like staying a little bit on the sidelines since then

1:21.3

for several reasons that we can maybe talk about.

1:25.2

But let's start with definitions maybe and then get into a conversation of where we

1:29.6

think this is eight months after it started gaining traction. What is backdriven development

1:35.1

in your perspective, Laura? I'm so glad that you ask this question because what I observe

1:40.7

from the companies that I work with is that there are lots of different practices

1:46.1

that people all call spectrum and development.

1:49.5

And so it's really kind of like a wide array and there's not a lot of standardization.

1:53.2

When I think about spectrum development, a couple things have to be true.

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