What is Real Allyship When it Comes to White Women and Racial Trauma with Dr. Monnica Williams (271)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Monnica Williams teaches Sue Marriott as they explore the deep psychological toll of racism, focusing on the concept of racial trauma and its cumulative impact on people of color. She highlights the importance of recognizing these experiences within therapeutic settings and the need for diversity in mental health research and practice. The discussion delves into the role of civil courage and meaningful allyship—particularly among white individuals in addressing systemic injustice. Dr. Williams offers insights into the multifaceted nature of activism, the harm caused by microaggressions, and the emotional labor involved in navigating everyday racism. From the fear of law enforcement to the unique challenges faced by white women in activism, Dr. Williams urges practitioners and allies alike to listen deeply, receive feedback openly, and use their privilege to support marginalized communities.

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0:00.0	You know, sometimes I might hear somebody say, oh, well, you know, because I was white, I didn't get this job, that personal color got it.
0:09.2	And first of all, that's an assumption that that you were more qualified than the personal color.
0:13.0	Actually, you probably weren't because research shows that you have to be way more qualified even to get an interview as a person of color.
0:20.5	There's, there's tons and tons of
0:21.7	resume studies that show this globally. But if that is true, I would challenge the person and say,
0:27.8	well, you know what, now you understand from this one experience, a little bit of what I'm
0:33.8	going through all the time. And that maybe makes you better able to connect with the oppression that the people around you,
0:40.7	the people of color around you are dealing with.
0:42.5	So maybe you can use that experience in that way to develop your empathy rather than, you know,
0:47.8	sitting around crying and complaining about how hard done by you are.
0:53.5	Welcome to Therapist Uncensored.
0:55.7	Building on decades of professional experience, this podcast tackles
0:59.0	neurobiology, modern attachment, and more,
1:01.9	in an honest way that's helpful in healing humans.
1:04.6	Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott.
1:25.1	Before we get started today, just want to do a quick shout out to remind you all of all kinds of fun ways to get involved and to build community.
1:31.1	We have professional consultation groups available. We have a course that we do live Q&As periodically. It also has a peer reading group within it to learn with other folks.
1:39.4	We have a book, of course, secure relating, holding your own in an insecure world. So there's lots of
1:46.0	ways that we are working to support you and provide different ways to connect and to plug in.
1:52.0	So visit us at therapist uncensored.com and look for the events and happenings page. And you'll get
2:00.1	caught up with us.
2:01.4	Today's episode, we are proud to bring you, Dr. Monica Williams.
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