Hi, and welcome to Radical Cander, a podcast from Panoply and Gretchen Rubin's Onward Project

about how not to hate the boss you have or be the boss you hate.

I'm Kim Scott, co-founder of Cander, Inc., an author of Radical Cander, be a kick-ass boss without losing

your humanity.

And I'm Russ Larraway, also a co-founder of Candor, Inc.

And I'm a career-long operational manager across the Marines, Google, and Twitter.

And Russ is the very best manager I've ever worked with in my whole career.

That's ridiculous.

It's not ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Thank you for saying it. It's amazing that someone can sincere, and I know

you mean that, it's amazing someone can sincerely say that, and yet I constantly feel like I'm messing

things up. You and me both. Management is hard. Yeah. So on this episode, we'll introduce you to a new

way to think about management and the

ideas behind radical candor. Along the way, we're going to talk about why we need this new way

of managing. We're going to look back to some of our worst and best moments as bosses, and we're

to give you some concrete tips for changing your relationships with the people you work with.

But first, let's tell everyone a little bit about ourselves and the podcast.

Kim, why don't you kick off?

Sure.

So I had three failed startups, and then I went to Google, which worked out a little bit better,

thank heavens.

And it was when I was at Google that I realized that the thing that I love most was building the team,

was actually being a manager, helping people who were working with me to love their work and also

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