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Find face-off wherever you get your podcasts. You're going to be. What's up guys? Welcome to another episode of Bro history. It is Henry Zamoda and

Danny of Delgebar. Hello Danny. What's up man? How you doing?

Doing well. Had a long day and I feel like my voice is going to crack throughout today's episode.

I could just feel it coming.

Well, I think we're used to it by now. The combination of not

much not getting much sleep and spending most of my day talking to people has really doesn't by 9 a.m. 10 p.m. or 9 a.m. 9 p.m.

doesn't do wonders for your voice. No it doesn't. No it doesn't. What are you laughing at?

I don't know. It's just, it's obvious. Yeah, it's not good for your voice. What's up guys? Welcome to another episode.

Today we're going to be speaking about something that's very close and dear to my heart. That is the Polish people.

The reason why the Polish people are dear to my heart is because my forefathers are from a land that may have been called Poland at one point and I have a Polish last name.

Zemoda.

Zemoda.

Zemoda.

Zemoda, like the average normal person. is that actually how it's pronounced in Polish do you know how it's actually pronounced or are we just pronounced

She's pronounced shemoda in Poland and Polish her motor chamota

shamoto like a smoke in a pancake a smoke in a in Polish shamota. Shamota.

Like a smoke in a pancake?

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