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Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

What is interspecific brood parasitism?

Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

iHeartPodcasts

Natural Sciences, Physics, Science, Astronomy

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Daniel and Kelly talk about interspecific brood parasites - which are species that sneak their eggs into the nests of other, unsuspecting species. How do they get away with this?

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0:00.0

This is an I-Hard podcast.

0:02.9

Guaranteed human.

0:12.3

Approximately 1% of all bird species are total jerks.

0:17.6

No, approximately 1% of all bird species are not seagulls.

0:21.6

They're what are called interspecific brood parasites.

0:25.6

And fine, they're not really jerks, but evolution has endowed them with a profoundly jerk-like strategy.

0:32.6

You see, interspecific brood parasites put their eggs into the nests of other species, often without

0:39.9

them knowing it. And to add insult to injury, the parasitic birds often damage the host nest

0:46.4

as well. For example, just in case the parents of the parasitized nest can count, the brood parasite

0:52.9

takes one of the host eggs out of the nest and yeats it overboard.

0:57.8

Now the nest has the same number of eggs as it did before the doting parents went out to grab a quick snack,

1:04.1

but one of those eggs is not their own.

1:07.8

And then the brood parasite mom typically scrams, leaving the host parents to do the difficult job of raising the kids.

1:15.4

How did this deadbeat parenting strategy evolve?

1:18.5

And why can't the host species seem to figure out what's happening and fight back?

1:22.8

On today's episode, we're going to dig into interspecific brood parasitism.

1:29.3

And I'm going to be absolutely thrilled to be combining some of my favorite topics, animal behavior and parasitism.

1:36.1

Welcome to Daniel and Kelly's parasitic universe.

1:39.1

Music Hi, I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist, and I have zero tolerance for parasites.

1:57.8

Hello, I'm Kelly Weiner-Smith. I study parasites and space, and I have all the time in the world for parasites. All right, Kelly, well then, my question for you today is, how many non-human species are there in your brood? Oh, you're asking me about pets. You've already asked me about pets. You just found a different way to ask. I guess, you know, you need an update, right?

2:17.6

Because you asked me this a couple weeks ago, and the number changes regularly. But now I'm

2:22.0

framing them as parasites on Kelly's Goodwill. Oh, probably just my dog biscuit, because she's been,

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