Hey, this is John at the Bible Project.

If you've been following along in the podcast, you'll know that we're in the middle of a

series exploring the identity of God in the Bible.

How the ancient biblical writers thought about what it's like to experience a transcendent

God.

If you've been listening along, you'll recall that we did a question and response episode

where Tim referred to Dr. Michael Heiser.

But we had the privilege of hanging out with Mike Heiser here in Portland at our studios

last week to talk shop and get an outside voice in our script writing process.

So while we were hanging out with Mike, the topic of the name of God came up.

And this is something we talked about on the podcast before, how the name of God is an

attribute that becomes more than an attribute.

And as soon as we started talking about it, I realized, man, we need to record this conversation.

There's some really good stuff here.

We talked about what does it mean to take the Lord's name and name.

What it means to just take the Lord's name and any capacity.

And how's that related to taking the name of the beast, which is actually the phrase

used in Revelation.

We talk about all that.

And more, a little bit more about Mike, he did his graduate studies at the University of

Pennsylvania in ancient history.

And then he did his doctoral studies at the University of Madison, Wisconsin in Hebrew

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