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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

What Is Europe? | Interview: Roderick Beaton

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.76.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

The Remnant’s collection of chivalrous gentlemen has been expanded with the addition of Sir Roderick Beaton, renowned scholar of Greek history, language, and literature. And while Jonah Goldberg’s love of Greece goes all the way back to his infatuation with Helena Paparizou, today Beaton is here to talk about something slightly grander: Europe. Follow Jonah and Roderick as they dive into this age-old topic, covering history, geography, Christendom, Russia, ancient Greece, race, Brexit, and micro-nationalism. Show Notes: —Roderick Beaton—Europe: A New History —Georgios Varouxakis—The West: The History of an Idea —Robert Tombs—This Sovereign Isle: Britain In and Out of Europe The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠click here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:03.0

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0:04.8

whether it's the funds fueling AI

0:06.4

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0:08.9

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0:11.4

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0:13.5

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0:20.4

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0:22.7

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0:29.0

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0:36.4

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0:38.3

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0:41.3

Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?

1:01.1

Can you digger?

1:07.4

Greetings, your listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

1:15.7

We've had several lords, British lords on this podcast, but I think we are breaking new territory here with our first night.

1:24.7

So this is very exciting for me. As an old anglofile plus Dungeons and Dragons

1:30.6

geek, having a night on is very exciting. Roger Beaton, I'm going to now butcher the pronunciation,

1:37.0

even though I asked him how to pronounce it. The Correys chair, he'll correct me in a minute,

1:41.4

of modern Greek and Byzantine history, language and literature at King's College London, and is now Emeritus.

1:47.6

He's the author of several books of nonfiction, a novel, several translations of fiction and poetry, and his new book, or I should say his most recent book, Europe, a new history is out to rave reviews, and he was knighted in February of 2025 by King Charles III

2:04.8

in the ceremony at Buckingham Palace, which I guess I have to ask him about at some point.

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