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The New Statesman | UK politics and culture

What is “Britishness” – and does it still matter? With Gary Younge, Jeremy Deller and Jason Cowley

The New Statesman | UK politics and culture

The New Statesman

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🗓️ 29 March 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

This special episode of the New Statesman Podcast marks “A Dream of Britain”, the New Statesman’s latest issue. It is guest edited by Michael Sheen and explores class, culture and identity in Britain today.


Anoosh Chakelian is joined by the writer and academic Gary Younge, the Turner Prize-winning artist Jeremy Deller, and the New Statesman editor-in-chief Jason Cowley to discuss why it is so difficult to understand what is meant by “Britishness” today.


They discuss British identity in the absence of a formal dream or foundation story, the reawakening of English and Scottish nationalism, and whether the very concept of a national identity is valuable or meaningful today.


Further reading:


Gary Younge on what it means to be British?


Jeremy Deller on his New Statesman cover: “it was important to be positive.


Jason's book, Who are we now? Stories of Modern England.


Michael Sheen explores how we are a nation in search of a story.


As a sense of British nationhood fades, Jason asks what is England?


Tony Blair and Michael Sheen in conversation: “I tried to give Britain a different narrative.”



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0:31.1

Hi, I'm Anouche and for this special episode of the New Statement podcast,

0:34.8

I'm joined by the writer Gary Young, artist Jeremy Della and the New Statement Editor-in-Chief,

0:39.5

Jason Cowley, to discuss British national identity, coinciding with a special issue,

0:44.4

guest edited by the actor Michael Sheen. This special issue, a dream of Britain, is on

0:48.8

Newstands now and explores issues of class, culture and our sense of national identity in Britain.

0:59.1

I'm joined by three people who have contributed to the magazine. Gary Young is a professor of

1:03.2

sociology at Manchester University, former Guardian columnist and the author of five books about

1:07.6

British and American identity. Jeremy Della is an artist best known for work exploring ideas

1:12.2

around British history, identity and pop culture. He won the Turner Prize in 2004 and during the

1:17.4

2017 general election campaign he created a poster bearing the words Strong and Stable My Ass,

1:22.8

referring to Theresa May's election slogan, copies of which were seen in windows across the country.

1:28.0

And Jason Cowley is editor-in-chief of the New Statement, whose latest book,

1:32.0

Who Are We Now, Stories of Modern England, is out this week?

1:36.1

Thanks all for joining me. First of all, I want to go around and ask each of you what is the first

1:40.4

thing you think of when you try and put your finger on British identity and is there even a British

1:46.0

identity? So Jeremy, you're sitting next to me. Why don't you go first?

1:49.3

Very boringly. I'm going to say maybe the landscape.

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