Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, you're raving with Sana Marin of Music, News, and

Criticism.

I'm your host, John Caramonica.

I'm too many ones in all, stumbling through these rats, my system up and low, they don't

start on me, I'll be on your door, I'm too old, pee for this path that's wrong, give

me that paddy day.

Shout out to young thug, shout out to bloody Jay, that's Florida water, but not the Florida

water that I prefer.

It's Florida water, which is a song by Ethan Mecca and Gunna and Clicks, maybe, TBD.

Ethan Mecca is, was, might be an artificial intelligence rapper, who has, or which has

had a challenging couple of weeks, was recently dropped from capital records.

This is sort of a annoying story, but it does bring up some interesting issues about ethics

in the music business and also the nature of artistry and the relationship between

art and technology and at what point the human aspect of creating gets some soon by technological

concerns.

It got me thinking about big picture questions like that and so we're going to talk today

first about the Ethan Mecca scandal, Joe is going to be here and also Ryan Broderick

is going to be here.

And then I also thought that the Ethan Mecca scandal really felt like an unconscious echo

of the Spotify fake songs storyline that's been bubbling for several years and been covered

extensively by music business websites.

And so in the second half of this episode, Tim Ingham is going to call in and we're going

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