What If Your Hardest Climb Is Within?
The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show
Chase Jarvis
4.8 • 641 Ratings
🗓️ 2 April 2025
⏱️ 85 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Melissa Arnot Reid shares what it really takes to climb—not just the highest peaks on Earth, but the deepest valleys within ourselves. Melissa is a world-renowned mountaineer, professional mountain guide, and the first American woman to summit Mount Everest without supplemental oxygen. She has spent years guiding others to the top of the world’s tallest mountains, but in this conversation, she opens up about an even greater challenge: facing the internal struggles that no summit can fix.
We dive deep into the difference between achievement and self-worth, the pressure of proving yourself, and what happens when success doesn’t bring the validation you expect. Melissa shares the raw, untold side of her journey—the failures, the doubts, the painful past she had to confront, and the losses that forced her to reevaluate everything. She also discusses her new book, Enough, a raw and powerful memoir about what it really means to be enough, when success isn’t and the truth is harder than the summit.
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Some highlights we explore:
- The fallacy of achievement – Why success doesn’t automatically bring happiness or contentment.
- "Am I good enough?" – The two questions that drove Melissa's biggest climbs—and biggest struggles.
- Lessons from the mountains – How extreme environments strip away who we pretend to be and reveal our true selves.
- The real hardest climb – The internal work of self-forgiveness, facing fear, and learning to let go of external validation.
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| 0:00.0 | The hardest thing that I have ever done is live through it the first time. |
| 0:04.0 | You know, some of these really tough things that I talk about. |
| 0:06.6 | Maybe the next hardest was to put it onto the paper and have it outside of me, even with nobody else looking at it. |
| 0:12.2 | Because then it's not negotiable. |
| 0:14.2 | I've put it on to paper. |
| 0:15.3 | I've released this story. |
| 0:16.7 | That's not the truth. |
| 0:17.6 | It's my truth. And I chose to do it in a way that didn't favor me always, but did favor the truth as I experienced it. |
| 0:27.8 | This episode is brought to you by My Latest Book, Never Play It Safe. Right now, if you do not have a copy of my latest book, I want you to listen to what Gary Vaynerchuk said about my latest book. |
| 0:41.1 | Building a life you love doesn't happen on accident. |
| 0:44.2 | It's a process. |
| 0:45.3 | Few people know this process like Chase Jarvis does and never play it safe is the roadmap. |
| 0:51.6 | Or what Sophia Amaruso said. |
| 0:54.0 | This book is a powerful compass for embracing risk |
| 0:57.0 | and creativity in all the aspects of your life. Chase shows us how to step out of our comfort zones |
| 1:02.5 | and become who we weren't meant to be. Here's a cool fact. All of the best stuff in life is on the |
| 1:09.9 | other side of your comfort zone. And never play |
| 1:13.2 | it safe is a blueprint. That's how I designed it. It's a blueprint to get you there reliably |
| 1:18.9 | over and over again. It's not an accident that this was a national bestseller on, I think, |
| 1:23.3 | four bestselling book lists. That's because it is a roadmap. It's a blueprint, right? |
| 1:29.9 | It's going to reshape how you think about attention, time, intuition, constraints, those |
| 1:33.9 | things that you feel like hold you back. If you're not playing enough, if you're working too |
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