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Win Make Give with Ben Kinney

What If You Were Actually in Charge?

Win Make Give with Ben Kinney

Ben Kinney Training

Self-improvement, Education

4.91.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Chad Hyams and Bob Stewart expliore the challenges and responsibilities of true leadership on the Win Make Give podcast. They explore the weight of decision-making, from understanding trade-offs to owning outcomes, whether in business or personal life. Drawing on real-life examples, including Ben Kinney's leadership during a financial crisis, they discuss the importance of making tough decisions and accepting criticism. This episode challenges listeners to reflect on their leadership roles and emphasizes the critical nature of responsible decision-making. Join Chad and Bob to gain insights into effective leadership strategies.

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Connect with the hosts:

•    Ben Kinney: https://www.BenKinney.com/

•    Bob Stewart: https://www.linkedin.com/in/activebob

•    Chad Hyams: https://ChadHyams.com/

•    Book one of our co-hosts for your next event: https://WinMakeGive.com/speakers/

More ways to connect:

•    Join our Facebook group at www.facebook.com/groups/winmakegive

•     Sign up for our weekly newsletter: https://WinMakeGive.com/sign-up

•     Explore the Win Make Give Podcast Network: https://WinMakeGive.com/

Part of the Win Make Give Podcast Network

00:00 The Joy of Playing Hooky and Making Family Memories

04:47 The Weight of Leadership and Decision-Making Consequences

10:21 Identifying Core Problems and Trade-Offs in Business Solutions

15:28 The Art of Decision-Making and Everyday Trade-Offs

17:59 Leadership Challenges and Decision-Making During Crisis

25:18 Embracing Criticism as a Leadership Badge of Honor

28:21 Leadership Requires Decisiveness and Ownership of Consequences

32:44 Empowering Personal Growth Through Supportive Podcast Reviews

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Win Make-Giv podcast.

0:09.0

Chad Heim's here.

0:10.1

Bob Stewart over there, Bob, how are you doing today?

0:15.8

I'm Chad.

0:16.5

I told you right before we hopped on, you're my last thing of the day.

0:19.7

You told me I'm your last thing of

0:21.3

the day the only difference is you're in florida and your day is almost over i'm in washington

0:26.4

and it's not even noon yet but what i'm about to do chat is i'm gonna play don't nobody listens

0:31.9

to our podcast my mom okay yeah you're probably good yeah uh i'm gonna play hooky in the second

0:37.3

half of the day hooky that's a good word i feel like nobody play hooky in the second half of the day. Hooky, that's a good word. I feel like nobody uses hooky anymore. I do it all the time. I use that word with my coaching clients all the time. When they text me, they're frustrated or they're pissed off. I say, good. Go play hooky for the rest of the day. pick it up again tomorrow with a clear mind.

1:12.1

So I'm going to play hooky. I'm going to go take my boys. We're going to, they're going to leave school early. We're getting out a couple hours early. Do they know this? Do they know dad's coming? Yeah, they know. We're going to drive down to the Tacoma Dome and we're going to go watch my college roommate's son who's a junior at Mount Sy High School here in Washington State play in the state basketball tournament, the championship.

1:19.1

They're in what the quarterfinals or the semis or something. So yeah, we're going to go play

1:22.9

hooky and watch some high school basketball with my boys.

1:28.1

That's awesome.

1:29.7

You're going to make a memory with your boys.

1:31.1

They're going to keep forever.

1:32.9

Yeah, totally, totally. I can remember as a kid, my dad, like my dad,

1:35.7

the state championships here in Washington,

1:38.1

I've been to Tacoma Dome for ages.

1:40.4

And I can remember going with my dad when I was in second grade.

1:45.9

So, yeah, they'll definitely remember it for probably ever.

1:50.1

That's awesome.

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