What If Obama Was Never President? | MiniPod
Native Land Pod
iHeartPodcasts and Reasoned Choice
4.8 • 3.5K Ratings
🗓️ 9 January 2026
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
For the MiniPod this week, our hosts respond to one of your questions: what would America look like if Obama was never president? Policies aside–Obama was such a powerful symbol for Black America. His presidency also inspired a powerful backlash. Our hosts discuss the legacy of Obama and the symbolism of Obama as they ask: was it worth it?
Join our hosts, Angela Rye, Andrew Gillum, and Bakari Sellers.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.4 | Native Lamb Pod is a production of IHeart Radio in partnership with Reason Choice Media. |
| 0:13.2 | And welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. |
| 0:15.8 | This is always an amazing Native Land production here where we get an opportunity to just show them. Self-complimentary. Yeah,, where we get an opportunity to just |
| 0:21.8 | self-complimentary. |
| 0:22.9 | Yeah, no, we get an opportunity to, that was a us self-compliment. |
| 0:27.1 | Oh, sorry. |
| 0:28.0 | Okay. |
| 0:28.8 | Blah, blah, blah. |
| 0:29.6 | Yes. |
| 0:30.2 | And while we are grieving, missing our home girl Tiffany Cross on this show, we do have, |
| 0:35.0 | for the first time, the three three of us joining together for this |
| 0:38.4 | mini pod. And we got an interesting question that was asked. And I actually, this was, this was my |
| 0:45.4 | idea if y'all can't tell. But I want to pose it to the larger group. Can we roll that question real |
| 0:49.8 | quick? And then I want to think about it. I want to, I want Andrew to start with this. No. |
| 0:54.5 | Why? Why, AG? Because I'll talk too much. I want to, I want Andrew to start with this. No. Why, why, A.G? |
| 0:56.1 | Because I talk too much. |
| 0:57.1 | I'll wait. |
| 0:57.7 | No, don't do that. |
| 0:58.9 | No, you just cover the whole pod. |
| 1:00.4 | So rude. |
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