Hey guys, welcome to the Conversations, That Matter podcast. I'm your host John Harris. I'm going to weigh in real

quick on something that is being debated on my social media right now, and that is, what do you do if your pastor

didn't mention Charlie Kirk or didn't mention Charlie Kirk in a way that satisfies you, the way that you think

Charlie Kirk should be mentioned in church.

And there's a few principles I want to give to you that I think can help guide this decision.

I did say publicly that if your pastor did mention George Floyd or preach the sermon about

George Floyd, use the sermon time to focus

on George Floyd related narratives and never repentant of that, never apologized, never

attracted anything, and then didn't mention Charlie Kirk at all, I would find a new church.

And the reason I say that is because it's very clear that you have a pastor who's being dragged

around by his nose by either the mainstream media or the liberal order, something that is

more powerful and more influential than the Bible, the Holy Spirit, and probably the congregation,

has your pastor's attention and has captured

his moral sensibilities. So many followers of Christ have been throughout history and even we are today

to conduct religion in your name in a way that masks, ignores, or promotes injustice.

To where he thinks that he needs to weigh in, in the wrong way, wait in with the wrong narrative

on a particular situation, give the wrong interpretation, step outside the biblical

teaching to talk about social justice and making sure disparities are done away with

and egalitarian schemes are promoted and the police are reformed and buying into what CNN told you

about what happened with Derek Chauvin and George Floyd

and attaching that to this narrative that the police are quote-unquote racist.

If your pastor did that and then has nothing to say about any of the things that have happened over the last week,

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