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Saturn Returns with Caggie

What if love is a practice?

Saturn Returns with Caggie

Caggie Dunlop

Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement

4.8892 Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In this solo episode of Saturn Returns, Caggie reflects on one of the most shape-shifting forces in our lives: love. Not the fantasy, but the lived, practised - and sometimes uncomfortable - truth of it. She weaves together her own relationship experiences with insights from some of the most influential voices in modern relationship thinking. Drawing on the work of Jillian Turecki, Caggie explores the idea of personal sovereignty in love - how our romantic lives often mirror our relationship with ourselves, and why consistency and character matter more than chemistry alone. She also reflects on the grounded wisdom of Matthew Hussey, whose work champions self-respect and emotional availability, alongside the deeply human teachings of Esther Perel, including the paradox at the heart of intimacy: our desire for closeness and our need for space. This conversation is an invitation to examine your own patterns. Do you confuse intensity with intimacy? Fantasy with safety? Are you choosing love from fear - or from truth? You may also enjoy revisiting our earlier mini-series Letters to Venus for further reflections on matters of the heart, including Caggie’s interview with Jillian Turecki here. The Saturn Returns app is here… 🪐 Find your exact Saturn dates and navigate life's most transformative astrological passage with personalised insights, guided reflections, and cosmic wisdom. Click here to download now! Discover more from Saturn Returns: 🪐 Find us on⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ YouTube⁠ and⁠ TikTok⁠ 🪐 Order the Saturn Returns book:⁠ Click here⁠ 🪐 Join our community newsletter:⁠ Sign up here⁠ 🪐 Explore all things Saturn Returns:⁠ Visit our website⁠ 🪐Follow Caggie on Instagram:⁠ @caggiesworld⁠

Transcript

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0:00.0

I want to tell you about something very exciting that we've been quietly working on behind the scenes

0:07.3

because so many of you message me saying, I love the podcast, it's helped me so much,

0:11.8

especially those going through challenging times, but they don't know where to go after they listen.

0:17.4

And so we created the Saturn Returns app. It's not just another astrology app that tells you what's going on astrologically. It's designed for daily support, a place to integrate what you're already feeling. Inside the app, your astrology is used as a mirror rather than a rulebook. You'll find short reflections, daily anchors, and of course

0:39.1

the focus is around Saturn because Saturn is the ultimate teacher for our personal development

0:45.3

and our maturity. So whether you're in your Saturn return or going through a challenging

0:51.0

moment of transition or just craving some steadiness in how you relate

0:55.0

to your life. This is a place to slow down and build self-trust over time. And if you were trying

1:00.9

to make sense of the current phase you are in, the app is probably going to tell you something that

1:06.3

you didn't realize because whilst we have our big Saturn return moment, we have these mini initiations throughout

1:12.2

our life. And it's really helped me over the last year understand what has been going on and why it's

1:18.4

been happening. And so I am super excited for you guys to explore the app. I think it's completely

1:24.8

beautiful. It's just everything that I've worked on over the last five years

1:29.2

in one place and this is only the beginning. So head to the app store, type in Saturn Returns,

1:35.5

add your information, get your birth chart overview and your current Saturn face.

1:41.9

Enjoy and thank you so much for listening.

1:56.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Saturn Returns with me, Kaggy Dunlop.

2:02.4

This is a podcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be confusion and doubt.

2:11.1

Today I wanted to put together an episode that I have been thinking about for quite some time and we're going to do it today. And you'll be pleased to hear that I've got some batteries.

2:16.7

I'm properly recording. I'm, I'm properly recording,

2:18.9

I'm ready to go. And the subject of today's episode is around love, one of my favorite

2:25.6

subjects, as you know. And I spend a lot of time listening to podcasts in the space or

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