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Money For the Rest of Us

What If It's Different This Time? - The Impact of the Russian-Ukraine War

Money For the Rest of Us

J. David Stein

Investing, Investing Podcast, Business, Economics, Economy

4.5 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

What can we do to prepare if the Russian-Ukraine war gets even worse?

Topics covered include:

  • How risk and uncertainty differ as does how we manage them
  • What we can learn from Ukraine and Russian citizens on dealing with uncertainty
  • What will be the financial impact of the sanctions against Russia and the ruble collapse
  • Why and how we should all prepare for potential cyberattacks
  • Why now is the time to make sure you have an appropriate asset allocation
  • How holding dollars, euros, or stablecoin can help protect against currency collapses
  • What we can do to help Ukraine


Thanks to Masterworks and Policygenius for sponsoring the episode

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Show Notes

JPMorgan Says Selling Stocks Now Carries Too Much Risk by Nikos Chrysoloras—Bloomberg

Ukraine conflict: Dread in Kyiv as huge Russian convoy advances by Lyse Doucet—BBC

Russia launches fierce rocket attack on Ukrainian city of Kharkiv by Guy Chazan, John Reed, Max Seddon, Henry Foy, John Paul Rathbone, and Demetri Sevastopulo—Financial Times

How new sanctions could cripple Russia’s economy—The Economist

Russian c.bank orders block on foreign clients' bids to sell Russian securities - document—Reuters

Ukraine invasion: Russians feel the pain of international sanctions by Anastasia Stognei and Simon Fraser—BBC

The dire predictions about a Russian cyber onslaught haven’t come true in Ukraine. At least not yet. by Joseph Menn and Craig Timberg—The Washington Post

Hackers Breached Colonial Pipeline Using Compromised Password by William Turton and Kartikay Mehrotra—Bloomberg

‘Yes, He Would’: Fiona Hill on Putin and Nukes by Maura Reynolds—Politico

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332: What Is Risk vs Uncertainty?


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Money for the Rest of Us. This is a personal financial show on Money. How it works, how to invest it, and how to live without worrying about it.

0:09.0

I'm your host, David Stein, today's episode 377. It's titled, What If It's Different This Time?

0:16.0

In last week's podcast episode, and also in the most recent episode of Money for the Rest of Us Plus, I shared some statistics,

0:25.0

how six months after a major military campaign, or terrorist event, the stock market, on average, has rebounded.

0:34.0

The economy has rebounded, and all prices have stabilized or fallen.

0:39.0

The head of global equity strategy at JP Morgan Chase, Ms. Lav Mateca, said something along the same lines.

0:47.0

If one is selling on the back of the latest geopolitical developments now, the risk is of getting whipsawed.

0:54.0

Historically, vast majority of military conflicts, especially if localized, did not tend to hurt investor confidence for too long, and would end up as buying opportunities.

1:07.0

Yet I am acutely aware, and have emphasized on the show that we are not guaranteed the average outcome.

1:15.0

We only get one life, one return stream, one pattern of annual stock market, and bond returns.

1:23.0

We get one series of geopolitical events. We pass through time.

1:28.0

We don't get to run a simulation of a bunch of different scenarios, and then choose one or take the average.

1:36.0

We get one shot.

1:38.0

And those averages, be it the average stock market return, the average return of different assets under different scenarios, those averages include extreme events, tail events, which are rare occurrences, well outside of the norm.

1:56.0

But if you have a scenario, we have a lot of extreme events, fat tails, that actually can skew the average.

2:03.0

Tail risk, which is distinct from tail events, tail events are things that occur, tail risk is the personal harm caused by these tail events.

2:13.0

In the worst case, tail risk can ruin us. We could die. We could go bankrupt. Our country could be invaded.

2:20.0

Tail events and tail risks are based on probabilities, statistics, where there is a defined range of potential outcomes, and the odds can be estimated.

2:33.0

Much of life can be defined or framed by probabilities. How likely is some event to occur?

2:42.0

Will our house burn down? What's our average life expectancy? That's different if something is uncertain.

2:51.0

When something is uncertain, we don't know what could happen, and we don't know the odds of what will happen. We just don't know the uncertainties are open-ended with many possibilities.

3:03.0

One easy way that it distinguishes between risks and uncertainties is risk you can buy insurance. I have recently reprised our home insurance and auto insurance.

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