meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

What if Climate Change Was a Hoax? | Frankly 72

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Natural Sciences, Earth Sciences, Science

4.8552 Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2024

⏱️ 12 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

(Recorded September 22, 2024)

14.8% of Americans do not believe in climate change. Recently, a study mapping a 485-million-year history of Earth's temperature and CO2 levels has been misinterpreted by some who downplay urgent climate concerns. Their argument suggests that, since the Earth has experienced much higher temperatures and CO2 concentrations in the past, the current rise of a few degrees won't significantly affect us - and that climate concerns are being over exaggerated 

What if climate change was, in fact, a "hoax"? What if all of the climate science developed in recent decades was a fraud? Could we then just generally exhale and continue humanity's current economic trajectory unimpeded?

Exploring these questions in today's Frankly, Nate emphasizes the limited, 'narrow boundary' perspective of downplaying the urgency of climate change. A more nuanced understanding of ecology reveals that the long-term stability of our planet depends on numerous environmental tipping points, with climate change being just one of them. Even if climate change was a "hoax", we are still causing accelerating harm to the life support systems of Earth , pushing the biosphere beyond its limits in a way which will profoundly impact our future, even our near term future.

Show Notes and More

Watch this video episode on YouTube 

---

Support The Institute for the Study of Energy and Our Future

Join our Substack newsletter

Join our Discord channel and connect with other listeners

 

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Greetings. A few days ago, there was a paper out in science by Emily Judd, a paleobiologist and her colleagues,

0:07.8

looking at a 485 million year history of Earth's temperature records and corresponding CO2.

0:15.5

This has been quickly jumped on by people who are kind of narrow boundary analysts, not well versed in climate change

0:25.7

science and Earth system science, pointing out that we are near, or just coming off the lows

0:34.1

of Earth's lowest temperature ever and lowest CO2.

0:38.3

And this means that one or two or three degrees Celsius doesn't matter because it's been much

0:42.8

warmer and much higher CO2 in the past.

0:46.7

I just had a podcast with Stefan Romsdorf.

0:50.4

It was interesting to me to see how many comments in the YouTube section were by people

0:57.6

calling climate change a hoax and that it just exists to fund scientists and scams and

1:06.6

government take over of our lives.

1:10.8

What if climate change is a hoax? What if all the things that we're

1:15.9

talking about in climate are not true? I'm going to briefly give an overview of what that would

1:23.1

imply in this, frankly. But first on the paper, Judd and her colleagues pointed out several

1:30.3

things that are not really being talked about and are being overlooked by these sensationalist

1:35.3

graphs floating around Twitter by Jordan Peterson and the like. At no point in the nearly half

1:42.6

billion years that Judd and her colleague analyzed did did the Earth change as fast it is now.

1:48.0

Another overlooked point is the Sun is bigger and brighter than when Earth formed by almost 50%.

1:54.0

So we require lower CO2 to offset that increased salation.

2:00.0

Third is this environment with lower CO2 and lower temps has allowed for an explosion of biodiversity.

2:08.6

The biodiversity now, even in this somewhat diminished state the last century or so, is the highest

2:14.6

ever recorded in the history of Earth. Another point is some of the big and many of the mini mass extinctions of the past were due to CO2 and lava basalt's volcanic provinces.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nate Hagens, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Nate Hagens and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.