What If Anne Boleyn Had Lived? Cromwell's Three Choices and Where They Led

Renaissance English History Podcast: A Show About the Tudors

Heather Teysko

History

4.6 • 624 Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2026

⏱️ 25 minutes

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It's April 1536 and Thomas Cromwell has gone home sick. Except he's not sick. He's deciding what to do about Anne Boleyn. In this What If episode, we play out three scenarios from that single moment of decision: what Cromwell actually chose and why it signed his own death warrant four years later, what happens if he removes Anne without killing her and she becomes a Protestant cause célèbre in exile, and what happens if he does nothing and bets on her survival. None of the roads end well. But they end very differently. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:48.5	It's April 1536 and Thomas Cromwell has gone home sick.
0:52.8	Except he's not sick. He is sitting at home and he is
0:56.6	thinking, ruminating, brooding, if you will, because he has a problem and the problem has a name
1:03.4	and the name is Anne Boleyn. And he needs to figure out what to do about her before she figures out
1:09.9	what to do about him. So figures out what to do about him.
1:12.5	So here is the situation.
1:14.6	Cromwell is, at this moment, arguably the most powerful man in England who isn't the king.
1:21.6	He has dissolved monasteries.
1:23.4	He has remade the church.
1:24.8	He has turned Henry VIII from a king into something that England has legit never even seen before.
1:33.6	A man who is simultaneously the head of the state, the head of the church, accountable to nobody on earth.
1:41.0	Cromwell built that.
1:42.4	He did that.
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