What Hulk Hogan taught Trump about politics
The News Agents
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🗓️ 21 May 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Before he was ever taken seriously as a politician, Donald Trump was very much taken seriously in the world of wrestling.
His relationship with WWE stretches back as far as the 1980s - he went on to headline Wrestlemania and even challenged founder Vince McMahon to a match during a running feud.
But what if wrestling was where Trump learned how to win the White House? Reality-defying performances, smack talk, and stunts are, after all, quintessentially Trumpian techniques.
Munya Chawawa thinks that Trump's origin story in politics might start in the ring - and came into the studio to discuss why.
Later, it was announced today that net migration has fallen by almost half, to its lowest level since the Covid pandemic. But will Keir Starmer be able to claim any credit for it?
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.0 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:12.2 | Made this connection between what we see in the wrestling world. |
| 0:16.0 | If you smell what the rock is cooking. |
| 0:20.4 | And how that has formed Trump, right? |
| 0:23.6 | Publicly, his image. |
| 0:24.6 | When you're creating a character, what you want to do is you want to create a character |
| 0:28.6 | so distinguishable that you could recognize them from their silhouette. |
| 0:31.6 | You know, Trump has a silhouette. |
| 0:33.6 | You know Trump. |
| 0:34.6 | From the quiff, from the weird T-Rex hands and the jerking off of imaginary ghosts when it's dancing. |
| 0:39.6 | You know, that is a level. |
| 0:42.7 | Why are you here? |
| 0:45.0 | Let me put it very simply, Vince. |
| 0:48.2 | I'm taller than you. |
| 0:51.1 | I'm better looking than you. |
| 0:54.6 | I think, I think I'm stronger than you. |
| 1:00.0 | Wow. |
| 1:01.4 | And I'm here to challenge you to a match in WrestleMania. |
| 1:09.8 | What? |
| 1:11.3 | That is Donald Trump, speaking to Vince McMahon at the WWE in 2007. |
| 1:17.3 | A full decade before he became president. |
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