What Happens When the People Building the Technology Stop Being Fans? with Anil Dash

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox, Open Mike Eagle, and Andrew Steven

Society & Culture, Business, Performing Arts, Arts

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Technologist, writer, and self-described "big fan of being a big fan" Anil Dash joins us to talk about what it looks like to spend 25 years watching tech eat everything from journalism to musict to blogging, and now the jobs of the people who built it. We get into 750,000 tech layoffs and counting, why the "learn to code" safety net is gone, and what happens to the creative economy when the partner who was supposed to be funding the dream loses their job too. Support the show at http://patreon.com/pastdue Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	What does it look like to spend 25 years at the intersection of tech, journalism, and art,
0:06.2	watching every institution you've ever worked in get disrupted from the inside?
0:12.5	This week we're talking with Anil Dash, technologist and writer. He was there when blogging
0:17.2	infrastructure was built, when Napster hit the music industry, when Craigslist
0:21.7	gutted newspaper classifieds. And I can't believe we had him on the podcast. He's like the
0:27.6	typhoid Mary of media. But he has lots of thoughts about what happens when the people building
0:32.7	the technology stop being fans of anything.
0:39.6	The creative economy is broken,
0:41.7	but some people are still making it work.
0:42.9	We're here to find out how.
0:44.3	I'm Anna Marie Cox.
0:45.7	And I'm Open Mike Eagle.
0:47.8	And this is past two. Zeele. So welcome to the show.
1:00.4	You go back with me and Mike separately.
1:03.6	Yes.
1:03.9	Interestingly enough.
1:05.1	But it's nice to have us all together in the same virtual room.
1:09.3	And Mike, since I think you were the person to last talk to Neal of the two of us, I'm guessing.
1:15.8	I think that's true.
1:17.4	Do you want to come in with our smoking hot first question?
1:21.8	I do.
1:23.6	Our smoking hot first question, we come in hot on this show is is when is the last time you were worried about covering your monthly expenses?
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