Welcome to Current Affairs and my name is Nathan Robinson. I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs magazine. I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs Magazine. I am joined today by two leading investigative reporters, Walt Bogdanovich and Michael Forsyth. They are the authors of the new book

when McKinsey comes to town the hidden influence

of the world's most powerful consulting firm.

Wilton Michael, thank you so much for joining us on period affairs today.

Our pleasure.

So let's start with the obvious question.

The world has many thousands of corporations in it.

It has many consulting firms in it.

Why, of all the consulting firms in all of the countries in all of the world, did you choose to write a book

about McKinsey and Company? Yeah, why McKinsey? Because it's the biggest, most powerful,

most influential, and frankly, the most secretive company out there. I mean, I can't think of a

company that is more secretive than McKenzie. In fact,

that's its business model and never discloses who its clients are or how much they're paid.

And they advise, you know, autocrats. They envise democratic regimes. They advise opioid makers.

And in addition to the major corporations in the world.

And they charge a lot of money.

And they say they're the best and the brightest.

And apparently a lot of people believe that.

I'm not sure they will believe that after they read our book.

But I guess that's what time will tell.

Yeah, you say this secretiveness.

Now, most companies that produce a product or a service might want to brag about what they do.

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