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Civics 101

What happens when it's not NASA bringing civilians to space?

Civics 101

NHPR

History, Government, Society & Culture

4.22.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In 1985, high school teacher Christa McAuliffe was selected to become the first private citizen to travel to space. After the Challenger explosion that killed her and 6 other astronauts, NASA scrapped its Teacher in Space Project; it was still too risky to send private citizens to space.   40 years later, things are looking very different.  Today, celebrities and billionaires are buying trips on commercial rockets. Private companies are designing new, private space stations.  How is safety being regulated for these private space companies? And what happens if – or when – something goes wrong?  Featuring Kim Bleier, Ben Miller, Doug Ligor, Peggy Whitson, and Dana Tulodziecki. Produced by Daniel Ackerman. For full credits and transcript, visit outsideinradio.org. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone, Nick here. As you can probably imagine, right now at Civics 101, we are

0:06.4

scrambling to make episodes that meet this moment. There is a lot going on in the country right now,

0:13.2

and we are paying very close attention. And we will be presenting you with new episodes that

0:19.2

take a decidedly Civics 101 approach and address as much as we possibly can.

0:24.4

But today we're bringing you something a little different.

0:27.1

Maybe you could use that.

0:29.2

So this week marks the 40th anniversary of the Challenger disaster, which killed high school social studies teacher Krista McColliffe and six other astronauts.

0:39.4

Now McCallif taught at Concord High School, which is pretty much a mile from NHPR where we make Civics 101.

0:48.0

The Challenger disaster was a huge story, not just because of the deaths of McColliffe and the other astronauts, but also because

0:55.7

it raised questions about NASA safety protocols and existential questions about the very purpose

1:03.0

of the federal government sending people to space. In 2003, those questions were raised again

1:10.5

when the space shuttle Columbia

1:12.0

disintegrated upon re-entry into the Earth's atmosphere, again, killing everybody on board.

1:18.8

But now, going into space is an adventure. An adventure a lot of people, a lot of rich people,

1:27.4

are paying big money for.

1:29.7

And private companies like Blue Origin and Axiom Space are happy to give them that chance for a steep price.

1:37.2

Our colleagues and dear friends at NHPR's Outside Inn podcast have been tracking the rise of civilian space travel and have been wondering,

1:45.7

considering what happened with Challenger and Columbia, how safe is private space travel for the celebrities

1:51.8

and billionaires who are lining up to do it? And what happens if or when? Something goes wrong.

1:59.6

Let's take a listen. Hope you enjoy it.

2:01.6

Kim Blyer has lived pretty much her entire life in Concord, the state capital of New Hampshire.

2:07.6

Concord is a little bit of a sleepy city. It is a city, but it has a small town feel.

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