What happens when an MP defects?
The Politics Show
The New Statesman
4.2 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 23 January 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Robert Jenrick's defection prompted a lot of listener questions. So we'll try to answer them!
Last week Robert Jenrick dramatically defected to Reform after being booted out of the Conservatives by a furious Kemi Badenoch.
The Tory leader claimed that she had "irrefutable evidence" that Jenrick had been planning to defect in "the most damaging way possible". So she sacked him from the government and removed the Conservative whip.
This prompted a lot of listeners to write in to Daily Politics with questions about the Jenrick defection, the future of Reform, and what it means for the Conservatives.
Megan Kenyon and Ethan Croft selected the best of your questions, and do their best to answer them in this listener questions edition of Daily Politics from the New Statesman.
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| 0:00.0 | The New Statesman |
| 0:02.0 | Hello and welcome to Daily Politics from The New Statesman, listener questions edition. |
| 0:10.0 | I'm Megan Kenyon and I'm here with my colleague Ethan Croft to answer your questions. |
| 0:14.0 | Hello Ethan. |
| 0:15.0 | Hello. |
| 0:16.0 | We've got some good ones today, lots about reform following Robert Jenrick's defection last week, plus a listener suggests a way Labor might raise a few quid in tax. |
| 0:24.6 | So first up, let's look at the glut of questions that came in after Robert Generic dramatically |
| 0:29.6 | defected to reform after being kicked out of the Tories by Kemi Badenock. |
| 0:34.6 | Laura asks, when a politician defects to another party, do their aids go with them or |
| 0:39.7 | stay? It seems someone in Robert Generic's office shared his letter. Ethan, you covered this for us last |
| 0:45.6 | week. Can you explain what kind of happened and what has happened since? The story that originally |
| 0:53.2 | came out when Robert Germick was kicked out by Kevin Biednock |
| 0:56.0 | was that she had obtained irrefutable evidence that he'd basically been planning to defect a reform. |
| 1:02.5 | And then it turned out that the Conservative leadership had obtained a draft of his resignation speech, which was sort of doubly proven |
| 1:13.6 | by the fact that that speech that appeared in the Sunday papers. |
| 1:17.6 | And that was when we got the sort of Alan Partridge lines about the new sheriff in town, |
| 1:23.6 | user humor, it's your greatest asset, all that kind of stuff. |
| 1:26.6 | So it seems that somebody in Robert Gemerick's office |
| 1:30.3 | or somebody who had had access to Robert Gemerick's office |
| 1:32.9 | had managed to get this document to the leadership |
| 1:36.1 | and was therefore sort of disloyal to Gemerick |
| 1:38.8 | or at least disloyal to Gemmrick in his reformed effector mode |
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