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Plain English with Derek Thompson

What Happens When AI Learns to Do Our Jobs

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Today’s guest is Ethan Mollick. Ethan is a professor of management at Wharton, where he specializes in entrepreneurship and innovation. He is the author of the book 'Co-Intelligence: Living and Working With AI,' and his Substack, One Useful Thing, is the single most useful guide I have ever found to make sense of these tools and use them productively. But he’s also a deep thinker of the Alfred Chandler school of big ideas who wants to not only help individuals use the technology more efficiently but also understand what happens as tens of millions and billions of people use the technology to make themselves more productive or even, at times, obsolete. Host: Derek ThompsonGuest: Ethan MollickProducers: Devon Baroldi and Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

As the 21st century was getting underway, Hollywood released a series of films that were daring, entertaining, and absolutely unmissable.

0:09.0

Films like, 25th Hour, Bring It On, Zodiac, and No Country for Old Men.

0:15.0

They arrived during the George W. Bush era, a chaotic time in America.

0:19.0

Think 9-11, Katrina, the mortgage crisis. After the Bush era, a chaotic time in America. Think 9-11, Katrina, the mortgage crisis. After the

0:24.3

Bush years, the country would never be the same, and neither would Hollywood. I'm Brian Raftru,

0:31.8

and in my new limited series, Mission Accomplished, we're going to dive into some of the biggest

0:35.9

movies of the bush years.

0:39.5

And look at what they said about the state of the nation.

0:42.1

We'll go behind the scenes with filmmakers and experts.

0:45.5

And relive some of your favorite movies from the early 2000s.

0:48.9

From Donnie Darko to Michael Clayton, from Anchorman to Iron Man.

0:57.0

So slip on your sketchers, dig out your old Nokia, and join me from Mission Accomplished, starting August 12th on the Big Picture Feet.

1:07.0

Today, AI and Work.

1:14.6

In the year 1800, it took about six weeks to travel from New York City to Chicago. You were probably going by horse and carriage and the roads were correct.

1:18.6

So if you wanted one summary of what the canals and railroads did to America, you could say this.

1:23.6

They shrank the country.

1:25.6

One implication of a smaller country is that it was easier for companies based in New York to do business in the Midwest.

1:31.3

Just as the train made it possible to move goods and people across the country at faster speeds,

1:36.3

the telegraph accelerated the speed of information.

1:39.3

And together, the telegraph and the train collapsed space and time for American commerce.

1:45.6

But trains did something more.

1:48.0

They didn't just make it faster for companies to do business.

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