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The Sporkful

What Happened When China Legalized Restaurants

The Sporkful

SiriusXM Podcasts

Arts

4.63.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In the 1980s and ‘90s, China went through a massive economic transformation. New government policies allowed everyday people to open their own businesses and accumulate wealth

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0:00.0

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0:10.0

There's oat and green pepper sauce, dried scallop and chitaki mushroom sauce,

0:18.0

fermented tofu sauce, mashed garlic, chopped chives.

0:21.6

Do you have a specific combination here, Wei Hong, that you like, that you do?

0:25.6

Hot pot's flavor is heavy, so I use less extra sauce.

0:30.6

I want Wei Hong's signature sauce.

0:33.6

Okay, I got it.

0:35.6

Oh, I'm blocking the robot.

0:38.0

Sorry, sorry, buddy.

0:45.1

This is the Sporkful.

0:46.9

It's not for foodies, it's for eaters.

0:48.8

I'm Dan Pashman.

0:50.1

Each week on our show, we obsess about food to learn more about people.

0:54.3

Earlier this year, I got the opportunity to go to Beijing to speak at a podcasting conference organized through NYU.

0:59.9

Recently, there's been an explosion of interest in podcasts, so they wanted me to talk about the craft of making podcasts, booking guests, and interviewing people.

1:07.0

I had never been anywhere in Asia, so obviously this was a very exciting opportunity, not just to connect with aspiring podcasters, but also to eat.

1:15.7

So today we're kicking off back-to-back episodes recorded on my trip to China and Japan.

1:20.5

This week, we're focusing on China's restaurant scene, which didn't even exist 40 years ago.

1:26.2

When Chairman Mao died in 1976, China was one of the poorest countries on the planet.

1:31.7

The government was struggling just to feed everyone. For a long time, all restaurants in China

1:36.1

were government-owned, and they weren't intended for a nice night out with friends. They were

1:40.0

mostly canteens for communal eating, focused on craking out enough food just to keep people

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