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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

"What Happened To The IDW?" with Ross Anderson

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Comedy Interviews, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Comedy

4.6863 Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2023

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

The so-called "intellectual dark web" was supposed to shine a light on issues too thorny for the mainstream media to touch. Now, it's a basket case of kooks. The journalist Ross Anderson recently wrote an amazing feature on the "red-pilling" of the gay conservative online host Dave Rubin. He's here to explain what's going wrong. 

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0:00.0

Goody, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. Do you have any friends who have become a little too obsessed with certain dangerous ideas and have had their brains twitified or onlineified who are starting to do their own research about secret things like vaccine side effects

0:23.5

or how the climate hoax is being perpetrated by the left or lockdowns were actually a way of

0:29.7

getting us all used to the barbarity of authoritarianism so that the United Nations can swoop

0:35.7

in and enslave us all. It may not be that extreme.

0:39.0

It may just be people who've meanded a little off the path of what you might regard as being

0:43.9

sanity. I have many such people, mainly in my professional life, not my personal life, thankfully.

0:51.6

And I wanted to understand more about this phenomenon, about what's going on.

0:56.0

When I spoke with Sam Harris a few weeks ago, the vast bulk of the reaction that that

1:01.9

podcast got online was arguments about the intellectual dark web and whether or not people like

1:09.9

Marjid Nawaz and Eric Weinstein and Brett Weinstein and

1:14.5

Dave Rubin and Sam Harris and Douglas Murray and a bunch of other names, whether these cultural

1:21.8

commentators who are regarded as being part of these sort of alternative media ecosystem,

1:28.5

a combination of scientists, critics, commentators, podcasters,

1:34.0

whether these people were always doomed to be tinfoil hat wearing conspiracists,

1:41.6

or whether, to varying degrees one or another, they sort of just

1:46.7

meanded in different ways off the path and why a disproportionate number of them had done so.

1:52.3

And some people are very angry at Sam forever having quote unquote platform to these people

1:57.3

as if like platforming is a thing. I get frustrated by that term. You know,

2:02.5

it's possible for me to platform or not platform people on my radio show on the Australian

2:07.6

Broadcasting Corporation because that's the public broadcaster and it has a certain imprimatur on it.

2:12.2

But on my own podcast, on my own gig, I mean, I can talk to whoever I want to. It's not really

2:16.5

like platforming them. It just depends on whether or not you ask them the right questions.

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