What happened between the Pentagon and Anthropic?
Tangle
Isaac Saul
4.7 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 3 March 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
On Friday, President Donald Trump ordered federal agencies to immediately cease their use of the artificial intelligence (AI) company Anthropic’s technology after it declined to allow the Pentagon unrestricted access to its models. Later in the day, Defense Secretary Hegseth directed the Pentagon to designate Anthropic as a “supply chain risk to national security,” which he said would bar contractors, suppliers, or partners doing business with the U.S. military from conducting commercial activity with Anthropic. Shortly after, OpenAI announced it had agreed to let the Pentagon use its AI models within classified systems.
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| 0:00.0 | From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. |
| 0:12.5 | Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. |
| 0:28.0 | I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we're going to be talking about the anthropic Pentagon dispute. |
| 0:35.4 | This is a huge story. We're going to break down exactly what's happening. |
| 0:39.1 | Some of the big AI questions that are now before us. I'm going to share some views from the |
| 0:43.9 | left and the right. And today, a unique section on what some tech writers are saying about this. |
| 0:50.6 | And then we'll jump into my take. Before we jump in, I want to do two things. First of all, |
| 0:55.1 | I want to thank you all who tuned in for our live stream last night. We did a full hour plus |
| 1:01.6 | on the war in Iran and then I answered a bunch of questions live on the stream, talk shop |
| 1:09.1 | with some readers and listeners and viewers who tuned into the channel. |
| 1:13.9 | It was super fun. I had a blast. I want to do more of it. I was candidly a bit impressed with myself. |
| 1:20.1 | I mean, I basically just rift solo for a whole hour answering questions. And at the end, |
| 1:25.6 | I felt energized. I was like, I didn't want to go to bed. I was up all night. I was reading the comments. I was just trying to dig deeper into some of the stuff people asked about that I didn't get a chance to respond to. It was super fun. That video is up on our YouTube channel now. The live stream's over, but the video is up. So if you go look up |
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| 2:02.2 | I had six people working, six people on my team working last night from 8 to 10 p.m. |
| 2:11.4 | on the stream, which is only possible because you guys fund this project with your membership. So huge shout |
| 2:20.6 | out and thank you to John Law, Lindsay Canuth, Russell Neustrom, Audrey Moorhead, Will |
| 2:28.1 | Kayback, Magdalena Bukova, Candida Hall all on the stream last night in the background |
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| 2:36.0 | you guys. Second thing is a heads up that I know all eyes are on Iran right now, but I did publish this |
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