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The Energy Gang

What happened at COP29?

The Energy Gang

Wood Mackenzie

Alternative Energy, Tech News, 958784, Environment, Technology, Renewable Energy, Energy, Business, Sustainability, Wind Energy, Climate Change, Cleantech, News, Solar Energy, Innovation, News Commentary

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

The climate talks agreed a $300 billion finance deal. Not everyone is happy about it.

The COP29 climate talks in Baku, Azerbaijan, finally ended around 5.30am on Sunday morning, almost 36 hours after they had been originally scheduled to close. The good news was that the negotiators representing about 200 countries agreed a deal on climate finance: flows of capital from developed countries to low and middle-income countries, to help them cut emissions and adapt to a warming world. The bad news was that many countries felt the amount agreed – $300 billion a year by 2035 – was much too low. India and other developing countries had suggested a sum of $1 trillion or more a year was needed.

Ed Crooks, now back home after attending the talks, is joined by Energy Gang regulars Melissa Lott, the partner general manager for energy technologies at Microsoft, and Amy Harder, the executive editor of the energy and climate news service Cipher. They discuss the outcomes from the negotiations: what was agreed and what it means. We also hear from Amy’s colleague Anca Gurzu, who was following all the action at the talks in Baku.

This conference was billed as “the finance COP”. If it had failed to agree a deal on finance, that would have been disastrous for the international effort to tackle climate change through the UNFCCC. But with a deal offering so much less than the amounts that developing countries had been hoping for, where does COP29 mean for the global energy transition? And as we look ahead to the crucial COP30 in Brazil a year from now, can we expect the countries of the world to commit to more ambitious goals for cutting emissions?

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to The Energy Gang, a discussion show from Wood Mackenzie about the fast-changing world of energy.

0:10.8

I'm Ed Crook. And on this episode, we're going to be rounding up what happened at COP29 climate talks in Baku,

0:17.2

Azerbaijan. As you'll know, if you've been listening to the show recently, I was there talking to a range of people about the key issues in the talks. I'm joined today by two of our

0:25.4

old friends who weren't actually there at the talks, but have been following them very closely.

0:29.7

Melissa Lott is the partner general manager for energy technologies at Microsoft. Your brand new job,

0:34.5

Melissa. Hi. How are you? Hey, I'm doing well, Ed. I'm enjoying the new job. I'm sure we'll talk about that offline.

0:40.5

I'll also say for today, you're just getting Melissa, our friend and energy nerd, talking on

0:45.9

the gang. So really looking forward to chatting with y'all.

0:48.4

Absolutely. Do not represent the official views of the Microsoft Corporation, et cetera, et cetera,

0:53.6

as they always etc. Exactly.

0:54.7

Important note to remember.

0:55.9

Thanks very much.

0:56.5

Very glad you were able to join us.

0:58.8

And also from the West Coast, Amy Harder is the executive editor of Safer, which is an energy

1:04.3

and climate news service backed by Breaks of Energy.

1:06.7

Hi, Amy.

1:07.1

How are you?

1:07.5

Great to have you back.

1:08.3

Yes, I'm doing well.

1:09.5

Great to see you both and looking

1:11.1

forward to this conversation. Absolutely. So as we were saying, you didn't go to Bucky yourself,

1:17.1

and I want to get into that in just a moment, but you were represented there, right? Your colleague,

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