This week we are talking with Rob Smith, a theologian who lectures in systematic theology

and ethics at Sydney Missionary and Bible College in Australia.

He approaches the topic of the transgender revolution as a biblical theologian, as a historian

of the movement, and as a pastor whose own family has been touched by the realities and

the tensions of gender dysphoria.

Three Christians here at all the time, transgender is an issue of what someone wants to do with

his or her own body.

It's not abortion, it's not murder, it is the choice of a person who wants to change

his or her own body.

So what would you say to the transgender community that says to Christians, hey, leave us alone,

if you think we're hurting ourselves, we're only hurting ourselves, so be it.

What I do with my own body is none of your own business.

What is the proper Christian response to that opposition?

This is a great question that I guess is a challenging one for many.

We were really told to back off, even non-Christian friends of mine who, for example, just to jump

over to the issue of same-six marriage, who would say, well, look, I don't understand

same-six attraction and I'm not in favour of same-six marriage, but who am I to, as

that were imposed my view or stand in the way of what others would like to do?

And so similarly here, why not just let people do what they want to do?

Now I guess one way of entering that is to say, well, we care about you and of our love

of our neighbours is to desire their good and if you think somebody is acting against their

own self-interest, then we at least have, I think, a duty or responsibility to say something

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