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The spring passage on and I recorded five episodes live and in the flesh in Nashville, Tennessee.

A number of you joined us for that recording session. It was great to see you and at one point in

Nashville, we talked about marriage. Here's the interchange. A lot of questions in this room. We've

got a hundred questions from folks in attendance. Most of those had to do with marriage. When life gets

busy, pastor gets busy, you've got young kids. How did you find over the years ways to invest in your

wife and make your marriage a priority, especially in those busy years of pastoring and with young

kids? What do you remember from those days about how you built into Noel and your marriage?

I think the biggest investment that a wife or a husband can make in their spouse is the

investment they make in their own soul. You know what I mean? If you, if you get married,

all's rosy, great, love each other and time goes by and you read all kinds of books and you hear

a question like that. And so I said, how are you investing in your life?

I bet investing in my life. What does that even mean? I think it is very easy to abstract that

from your own soul transformation so that it becomes a project, marriage is a project. I've

got to read another book. I've got to go to another seminar. I've got to learn the right, you know,

love language. Well, that can be good, but far more important is do I go to the Lord and invest

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