What E. Jean Carroll Did For Women
The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism
Slate Podcasts
4.2 • 903 Ratings
🗓️ 11 May 2023
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
On this week’s episode of The Waves, E. Jean Carroll won, but what now? Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth talks with Slate senior writer Christina Cauterucci about the use of civil trials in cases of alleged rape and domestic violence, how the #MeToo movement influenced the trial, and what Carroll’s win could mean going forward.
More About Carroll:
“Not My Type” by Christina Cauterucci
Lie Detector by Christina Cauterucci
There’s a Remarkable Piece of Evidence in the E. Jean Carroll Trial by Christina Cauterucci
Make No Mistake About the $5 Million E. Jean Carroll Verdict Against Trump by Christina Cauterucci
In Slate Plus, the stupidity of one of Trump’s lies.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the waves, |
| 0:01.0 | the the Waves, Slate's Podcast about Gender, Feminism, and this week, Hideous Men and |
| 0:15.8 | The Lies They Tell. |
| 0:18.0 | Every episode you get a new pair of feminists to talk about the thing we can't get off our |
| 0:21.9 | minds, and today you've got me, Shaina Roth, |
| 0:24.4 | senior producer here at Slate. |
| 0:26.4 | Later in the show, I'll be joined by Slate |
| 0:28.3 | Senior writer Christina Katerucci. |
| 0:32.0 | E. Jean Carroll remembers the old version of Donald Trump. |
| 0:35.4 | Anderson, we were having a high old time. |
| 0:38.4 | You remember Donald Trump. |
| 0:40.1 | Hale fellow well met walking up and down the streets of New York greeting everybody everybody liked him |
| 0:45.6 | He was about 1995 96 he was Shakespearean he was great you'd love to see him on the street. So when we met in Burgdorf's and he said, |
| 0:57.2 | help me, advised me to find a present, I was thrilled. I thought, this is this is hilarious I'm wondering the statement that he said that's Carol on Anderson Cooper's CNN show in 2019 Carol was a columnist for L magazine and you can tell just by that clip that she's a vivacious |
| 1:15.6 | intelligent woman. She's someone you'd like to go shopping with, have a drink with. |
| 1:20.3 | But despite that description of Trump in the 90s, Carol goes on to recount her version of what happened |
| 1:25.8 | when she agreed to help Trump find a present. |
| 1:28.7 | He was going to get some lingerie, and I am just like, oh, I can dine out forever on this story, we're going to go get Laundry. |
| 1:37.0 | You go, you say you go up to the Laundry Department and no one is around. |
| 1:40.0 | And there are two or three boxes on the counter, the fancy, remember the old-fashioned |
| 1:44.2 | lingerie boxes, and a filming see-through body suit. |
| 1:48.1 | I used to be a writer at Saturday Night Live. I see an entire sketch of making Donald Trump put this |
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