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deliver room. Geographical restrictions, T. C. C. Service and delivery fees apply. He handed over hundreds of pages of his private journals and years worth of personal correspondence,

including sensitive emails with some of the most powerful Republicans in the country.

When he couldn't find the key to an old filing cabinet that contained

some of his personal papers, he took a crowbar to it and deposited stacks of

campaign documents and legal pads in my lab.

He'd kept all this stuff, he explained,

because he thought he might write a memoir one day,

but he'd decided against it.

I can't be objective about my own life, he said.

This is on point. I'm Megna Chakrabardi. And that passage is from the new book

Romney, a reckoning by McKay Coppins. In the spring of 2021,

Coppins began meeting with Utah Senator Mitt Romney.

And as that passage indicates, it was clear that Romney wanted to, even needed to talk, perhaps even unburdened himself.

Over the course of more than 40 interviews,

Romney shared with candor almost unimaginable for a politician his personal reckoning in the age of Donald Trump,

and the reckoning that he hopes and praise will come to the Republican Party.

And McKay Coppins joins us now.

McKay, welcome back to the show.

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