Hello and welcome to the GZero World podcast.

This is where you'll find extended versions of my interviews on public television.

I'm Ian Berman, and today we are taking a deep dive into the future of the American economy.

Donald Trump has promised to cut taxes, deport millions of undocumented immigrants, and reduce the trade deficit.

His message? Trade deals that pumped billions into foreign economies have hurt U.S. workers

and businesses, and it resonated with voters who felt left behind by globalization.

His solution, tariffs, big ones.

Trump's called for a minimum 10% tariffs on all imports globally and at least 60% on goods from China

to protect U.S. jobs and boost manufacturing.

Trump calls tariffs the most beautiful word in the dictionary, but economists warn they'll spark a global trade war and send prices soaring.

My guest today disagrees.

Oren Cass, founder and chief economist of the conservative think tank American Compass,

says tariffs prioritize long-term benefits for workers.

His writing challenges mainstream economic thinking, so naturally I had some questions.

We'll unpack Trump's economic agenda.

Inflation and why Cass calls tariffs Trump's most misunderstood policy proposal.

Let's get to it. Warren Cass, welcome to GZero.

Thank you for having me.

I want to talk today with you about what we should expect from a Trump

administration on economic policies. And, you know, this is an area that there's a lot of misinformation.

There's also a lot of polarization. I want you to tell me first, just lay out a little bit

where you think a Trump administration

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