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Trying to read and process what we've learned about Jeffrey Epstein and the world he created is miserable business.

In its more lurid details, it's frankly awful to think about what was done to people,

underage or not. In the lack of accountability for the many people involved, it is absolutely

enraging. And in the banality of otherwise decent people who made friends with Epstein,

deciding they could tolerate evil for the sake of his money and his connections,

it's just depressing, to say the least.

One email stands out amid the millions of grim details,

a terse note that Epstein sent one of his lawyers in February

2019. He wrote this. Should we share the Julie Brown text with Alan, meaning the lawyer, Alan Dershowitz?

She's going to start trouble, asking for victims, etc. And Julie Brown did start trouble.

As a reporter for the Miami Herald, her reporting on the Epstein story has been remarkable,

and it's been so for years.

And to those like the president who have said that Epstein is dead and it's time to move on,

Brown says no. Stop.

We haven't yet seen real accountability

for what happened on Epstein's Island

and in his New York mansion

and so much else.

How could this have happened?

I spoke with Julie Kay Brown this past week.

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