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The Two Matts

What Dominic Cummings did next... and what Keir Starmer should do next

The Two Matts

The New World

News, News Commentary, Government, Politics

4.4523 Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2021

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In this week's episode, host Steve Anglesey is joined by writer and self-proclaimed bon viveur Zoe Williams who discusses the concerning rise of Priti Patel, and the even more troubling future of the new right. Political strategist and former political secretary to Tony Blair and communications director to Julia Gillard John McTernan delves into the traits of Dominic Cummings the disruptor and explains how Keir Starmer can win the next election by taking certain issues off the table. Plus, Lord Frost, Ann Widdecombe and Rishi Sunak enter the Hall of Shame. Enjoyed this episode? Let us know by tweeting @TheNewEuropean


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Hello, snowflakes and welcome to the New European podcast. It's a British eye on European politics

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and culture from the people who bring you the New European newspaper.

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If you'd like to enjoy more from the New European, do join us by subscribing at the new European.com.ukuk slash subscribe. My name is Steve Anglesey. Now, if you could get

1:37.0

pinged for narcissism, then Dominic Cummings would be in self-isolation right now.

1:41.6

And he'd be totally alone with the one person who he really trusts

1:45.2

and really respects himself. I'm still recovering from Dominic Cummings' interview with Laura Coonsberg.

1:51.8

I'm sure you are too. Did he really say that it's perfectly reasonable to think that Brexit is a mistake?

1:58.2

Did he really say that anyone who's sure Brexit is going to work

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