What does Xi want?

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

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🗓️ 8 May 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

The new Cold War between China and the US isn’t just fought on the digital plane. China is supplying equipment to Russia, intimidating Taiwan, bringing countries across Africa and Asia into its orbit – and, according to US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, attempting to influence the US Presidential Election. What does Xi Jinping really want? Can he square China’s goal of being the “workshop of the world” with its foreign policy? And will he really move against Taiwan? Gavin Esler talks to distinguished China correspondent James Miles and political scientist and historian Professor Steve Tsang, co-author of The Political Thought of Xi Jinping, about China’s leader and his goals. Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon to get early episodes, merchandise and more. Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:23.6	Until 18-plus, T's and C's apply, exchange fees and fair usage limits supply. There's nothing new in the idea that we've entered a new cold war beyond NATO's mission to contain Russian expansion in Europe, the United States and China
0:46.8	are contesting everything from trade and the ownership of Tik-Toc to espionage and China's
0:52.1	influence in the Western Pacific and global South.
0:55.0	US Secretary of State Anthony Blinkin says he's seen credible evidence that China seeks to
1:00.8	influence and arguably interfere in this year's US elections. In Beijing,
1:07.0	Mr. Blinkin recently told China's president,
1:09.5	Jejin Ping, that China must stop supplying Russia with equipment used in Ukraine
1:15.0	because it is helping fuel the biggest threat to European security since the Cold War.
1:21.0	So what is Xi up to and some even more basic questions? Who really is
1:26.8	Xi? What's his idea of modern China's place in the world and how is he trying to get there?
1:32.1	I'm Gavin Esler. This is not a drill. Oh, While many of us think we understand Vladimir Putin as just the latest in a long line of Russian expansionist leaders
2:06.4	from the SARS to Stalin, China's president and chairman of the Chinese Communist Party,
2:12.1	Xi Xin Ping, remains a mystery to many of us.
2:15.1	Xi flirts with conflict over Taiwan,
2:18.2	and he's changed the rules so he could be President of China for life.
2:22.1	But Xi also seems to recognize the economic
2:25.3	interdependence between Western consumers and Chinese workers.
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