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From KQED.

Thank you. From KQED in San Francisco, I'm Nina Kim.

Could we use a little more utopian thinking right now?

Kristen Godsey thinks so. She writes in her new book, Everyday Utopia, given the sudden

social upheavals of the pandemic, the destabilizing effects of the climate crisis, and the growing

prevalence of isolation and despair and communities across the globe, we are once again at

a moment when utopian dreaming feels appropriate. It may

even be necessary for our collective survival. Coming up on forum, we'll look at the benefits

of thinking utopically, at a time when many of us can feel trapped in a doom loop and it's

more natural to imagine a dystopian future than a utopian one. What's your utopia? Tell us after

this news.

Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. What comes to mind when you hear the word utopia or when you're asked what an ideal way of living or state of being

looks like, a communal living society, perhaps, or an eco-village? Maybe you think of the communes

of the 1960s. Depending on what is going on in the world, humanity has always looked to utopias for

inspiration, writes Kristen Gottzi, author of Everyday Utopia,

no matter the risk, no matter how long the record of disappointment and failure.

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