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Outrage + Optimism

What does Trump 2.0 mean for climate?

Outrage + Optimism

Persephonica

Science, Finance, Energy, Policy, Business, Green, Society, Current Affairs, Climate, News, Planet, Society & Culture, Environment, Climatechange, Nature, Parisclimateagreement, Globalwarming

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

What will a Trump presidency mean for the climate movement? Hours after Trump takes office for the second time, Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson regroup to take stock and share their reactions to the US withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement. Guest Greg Bertelsen, chief executive of the Climate Leadership Council, offers his perspective on positive ways in which to engage with the Trump presidency on climate and Paul Dickinson shares what business leaders will be discussing at this week’s World Economic Forum in Davos. 


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Outrage and Optimism. I'm Tom Rivikarnik. I'm Christiana Figueres.

0:06.2

And I'm Paul Dickinson. This week we talk about the inauguration of President Trump 2.0,

0:11.1

what happens next and what we can all do. Of course, it's also Davos this week, and we're also going to talk at the end about what's happening there.

0:17.4

Plus, we speak to Greg Bertleston from the Climate Leadership Council. Thanks for being here.

0:23.8

Okay, friends, so we all watched the inauguration yesterday. There's no way of sugar-coating this.

0:27.8

This is a heavy defeat for our agenda, and we've got to find ways to pick ourselves up and

0:31.5

keep moving forward. We're still in the decisive decade. So we're going to get into this,

0:35.1

but before we kick off, let's hear a little bit from what happened this week. Please raise your right hand So we're going to get into this, but before we kick off, let's hear a little bit from

0:37.8

what happened this week.

0:39.5

Please raise your right hand and repeat after me. I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear.

0:46.2

I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear. Congratulations, Mr. President.

0:51.0

Today I will sign a series of historic executive order.

0:55.0

The next item here is the withdrawal from the Paris Climate Treaty.

0:59.8

That is why today I will also declare a national energy emergency.

1:06.1

We will drill, baby drill.

1:11.0

Okay, so a crowd of people cheering the withdrawal from the Paris Agreement.

1:16.1

I mean, I remember last time he pulled out when he was sitting in the Rose Garden,

1:19.6

he's definitely turned this more into theatre.

1:21.7

Kristiana, you were Executive Secretary of the UNFCCC,

1:24.8

steered the world to the Paris Agreement.

1:27.2

I was alongside you for some of those years. Paul, you were steered the world to the Paris Agreement. I was alongside

1:27.7

for some of those years. Paul, you were central to this in many ways as well. I remember last

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