Hello and welcome to outrage and optimism. I'm Tom Rivikarnik.

I'm still Cristiana Villers.

And I'm Paul Dickinson.

This week we are all together and we are talking about the acronyms that you are going to need to understand

in order to make sense of climate news in 2025.

Thanks for being here.

Okay friends, so I have been thrilled that we're going to be recorded, because I love acronyms.

So I've been so looking forward to that.

You do? I, I love acronyms.

No, I don't. I think acronyms are the worst part of the climate movement.

It is ridiculous. It's almost impossible to have any sense of what's going on most of the time, unless you're paying really close attention.

Because not only are there a lot of acronyms in the climate space, but they evolve so quickly.

You sort of don't pay attention for three weeks and they've proliferated.

Not saying. We, as part of the climate community, we do invent acronyms. And the whole point

of inventing acronyms is just to figure out who's up to speed and who's not.

Yeah. So you throw an acronym in and if somebody picks it up and runs with it,

then ah, they're up to speed. And if somebody says, huh? Yeah.

Then you're like, oh man, you are so five minutes ago. Yeah, well, two points here. First

of all, you should just say to people, what's that acronym stand for?

It's perfectly reasonable.

That's how we always know you're not in the loop, though, Paul.

You're constantly out.

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