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Civics 101

What does the Supreme Court's immunity decision mean?

Civics 101

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Society & Culture, Government, History

4.22.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2024

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

On this special bonus episode of Civics 101, we talk about the Supreme Court’s decision on July 1st in the case of Trump v United States. The court ruled along ideological lines; it was a 6-3 decision that granted former president Donald Trump - and any president - some degree of immunity.  But it's a long opinion, and a  complicated one.  To explain all of it, we reached out to Dr. Claire Wofford, an Associate Professor of Political Science at College of Charleston. CLICK HERE: Visit our website to see all of our episodes, donate to the podcast, sign up for our newsletter, get free educational materials, and more! To see Civics 101 in book form, check out A User's Guide to Democracy: How America Works by Hannah McCarthy and Nick Capodice, featuring illustrations by Tom Toro. Check out our other weekly NHPR podcast, Outside/In - we think you'll love it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you're listening to Civics 101, I'm Nick Campadiche and we are doing a super

0:08.1

turn-around bonus episode on the Supreme Court's decision today, July 1st, in the case of Trump v United States.

0:16.2

The court ruled along, as we so often say, ideological lines.

0:20.3

It was a six to three decision that granted former President Donald Trump and any

0:24.8

president some degree of immunity and we'll get to that level of immunity a

0:29.2

little bit later. The opinion is long it was written by Chief Justice John Roberts, with concurring opinions by Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice Amy Coenney Barrett, and dissenting opinions by Justice Sonia Sotomayor and Justice Katai Brown Jackson.

0:45.0

I'm really quickly just going to read the most relevant paragraph from Chief Justice Roberts's opinion here,

0:50.0

quote, under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of presidential

0:56.7

power entitles a former president to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive

1:05.8

constitutional authority and he is entitled to at least presumptive

1:10.4

immunity from prosecution for all his official acts.

1:14.4

There is no immunity for unofficial acts.

1:19.7

To explain all of this today, I am speaking with Dr. Claire Wofford. She is an

1:24.9

Associate Professor of Political Science at the College of Charleston. Dr Wofford,

1:29.2

thank you so much for being on Civics 101. Welcome. Thank you, happy to be here. That's great because we don't usually do it this way. We usually record things in advance. So we're on a strange fast journey together, you and I.

1:42.0

Well, I look forward to making as much sense of it as we can so first off can you give us like a quick fast recap of how we got here like what is the case or the cases

1:54.4

about which the court was weighing presidential immunity?

1:57.3

Right, so President Trump has had multiple cases

2:00.5

proceeding in various courts.

2:01.9

This case centered around the prosecution of

2:05.2

Donald Trump by Special Counsel Jack Smith for actions that he took related to the

2:11.6

2020 election.

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