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What does the new COP28 climate deal really accomplish?

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

At the end of two weeks of intense negotiations at COP28, a new major climate deal has been reached. Supporters say it marks the beginning of the end of fossil fuels, but not all parties are happy. It does not call for phasing out fossil fuels, island nations complained it’s a death knell for them, and climate activists say the deal lets the fossil fuel industry off the hook. Lord Nicholas Stern, chair of the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change & The Environment, and author of The Economics of Climate Change, joins Christiane to discuss.  Also on today's show: Fawaz Gerges, Professor of Middle East Politics, London School of Economics and author of What Really Went Wrong: The West and the Failure of Democracy in the Middle East; Molly Duane, Senior Staff Attorney, Center for Reproductive Rights; Republican strategist Liz Mair  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amalpur. Here's what's coming up.

0:08.0

A major new climate deal is struck in Dubai. Is it all hot air or will it really make a difference?

0:15.4

I ask climate expert Lord Nicholas Stern and Biden delivers his harshest criticism yet of Israel's Gaza war. I get inside on the region from scholar

0:26.8

Farwa's Jejez. Then, Texas denied Cape Cox and abortion, even with a fatal diagnosis for the fetus, I speak to her attorney.

0:37.1

And then GOP politics on this issue, Republican strategist Liz Mayer, talks to Michel Martin. Welcome. Welcome to the program everyone I'm Christina Montpur in London.

1:08.0

I must say that you did it you delivered.

1:14.0

Cheers and hugs in Dubai today for a new major climate deal

1:21.0

one that supporters say marks the beginning of the end of

1:25.3

fossil fuels. Nearly 200 countries agreed for the first time ever to

1:30.3

transition away from oil, coal and gas and move closer to the goal of achieving net zero by 2050.

1:38.6

It's the end of two weeks of intense negotiations at the UN Climate Summit known as COP28.

1:45.2

But not all parties are happy because it doesn't actually call for phasing out fossil fuels.

1:51.0

Island nations complain that it could be a death knell for them.

1:54.5

And climate activists called the deal which is not legally binding, woefully insufficient, claiming

1:59.9

that it lets the fossil fuel industry off the hook.

2:03.4

Here now, with a verdict, is the expert, Lord Nicholas Stern,

2:08.0

a long-time climate scholar and author of a landmark report

2:12.3

on the issue for the British government.

2:14.8

Lord Nicholas Stern, welcome back to our program.

2:17.4

So we've talked throughout the years about what needs to be done.

2:21.5

We've talked over various cops about this

2:23.7

can you just sum up in a word everybody was worried until the last minute thinking that these

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