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What does the government mean by 'Texas-style justice'?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

Politics, Daily News, News

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2023

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Justice Secretary Alex Chalk has been talking about bringing 'Texas-style justice' to the UK in his latest proposals for reform of the prisons system. What does it really mean? James Heale talks to Katy Balls and Isabel Hardman.

Produced by Oscar Edmondson and Cindy Yu.

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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm James Hill and I'm joined today by Katie Bulls

0:29.2

and Elizabeth Harman. Now Katie of course the big story that dominates the weekend is of course

0:33.3

what's happening in Israel and Palestine. Talk us through what the UK government has been saying

0:36.9

in response to it. So I think at the moment it's very much a sense of just waiting and watching

0:41.2

to see what those really government actually do in the coming days when it comes to the ground

0:45.6

invasion that's been talked about. You have the evacuation going on at the moment and therefore

0:49.8

the questions that the UK government is facing are much more about logistics. So James Clavidy

0:55.3

under pressure to say how are you going to get UK nationals out. I was also questions about the

1:00.8

UK nationals that we're led to believe are part of the number of hostages currently in Gaza.

1:06.9

And I think you also have cross-party unity at the moment. So there was a moment that

1:12.1

I think was spread quite widely on Sunday of David Lamy, the Shadow Foreign Secretary and James

1:16.7

Clavidy meeting and actually almost embracing one another. And it means for many reasons that action

1:23.1

really on this is not in Westminster. But Labour want to echo where the Tories are in terms of the

1:28.8

policy. Keir Starmer's so far has stopped there being splits on the Labour side in any significant

1:33.3

way. But I think where this will be tested, and we'll have a statement from Rishis and I later

1:38.0

about any of the response, but also issues in terms of are we seeing some of the division

1:43.4

I spill out in the streets in the UK. I think that's an immediate problem for the government.

1:48.2

But I think when it comes to what you keep hearing from both the Tories and Labour, which is

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