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Meridian Magazine--Come Follow Me Latter-day Saint Podcast

What Does the Fall Have to do with Me?—Genesis 3-4, Moses 4-5

Meridian Magazine--Come Follow Me Latter-day Saint Podcast

Scot Facer Proctor

Religion & Spirituality

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

January 19-25

Creation, fall, redemption. These are the three pillars of eternity, the story that was Adam and Eve’s and ours too. It is one grand picture. We think of a book like the Old Testament as being dusty and very far away from us, but in reality it is our first story. It is our story. We think of the war in heaven that first set Satan on his path to put men and women in bondage and chains as something that was handled and finished eons ago, but in reality, that war in heaven was just the first skirmish of a war that is raging ever hotter by the year.

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0:00.0

People feel like this woman who said, if you can show me why the fall matters in this moment, then maybe I'll listen.

0:13.4

If not, the kids are crying and I have reality to deal with.

0:21.0

Hello, friends, and welcome to Meridian Magazine's Come and See podcast. We're Scott and

0:27.0

Maureen Proctor and together today we'll be talking about the fall of Adam and Eve in

0:33.0

Genesis chapter 3 and 4 and, Chapter 4 and 5.

0:38.3

James Farrell said,

0:40.3

Here's why the fall matters today.

0:43.3

While it is true that mankind fell from the presence of God with the fall of Adam and Eve,

0:49.3

the fall is repeated anew many times over by each of us.

0:55.4

And with every personal fall, we give away something precious beyond measure, something

1:01.6

surprising, even shocking, the very agency we fought to keep in the premortal world.

1:09.2

Were it not for the Lord's atonement, we would be lost, not

1:13.2

only eternally, but in each and every moment, enslaved to the anger, frustration, resentment,

1:22.1

and despair that crush us as we fall. So the fall is as much a modern event as an ancient one, as is the

1:31.9

Lord's Atonement, which is the lifting remedy that rescues us from the doom and gloom we may feel

1:39.3

stuck within. Creation, fall, redemption. These are the three pillars of eternity, the story that was Adam

1:49.2

and Eves and ours too. It is one grand picture. We think of a book like the Old Testament as being

1:56.9

dusty and very far away from us, but in reality, it is our first story. It is our story.

2:04.6

We think of the war in heaven that first set Satan on his path to put men and women in bondage

2:11.2

and chains as something that was handled and finished eons ago. But in reality, that war in heaven was just the first skirmish

2:20.1

of a war that is raging ever hotter by the year. Scott, when we first started Meridian magazine,

2:27.2

you remember we had a slogan that we used to introduce it. It read, the war in heaven is not

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