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I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

What Does the Bible REALLY Say About Israel? (And Why It Matters Now) with Pastor Robert Furrow

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.95.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Is the Church the “new Israel,” or does God still have unfinished business with Israel? Pastor Robert Furrow of Calvary Chapel Tucson joins Frank to explore key parts of Scripture that talk about Israel’s past, present, and future, and whether or not its modern state is even part of what the Bible is talking about. Tune in as they answer questions like:

  • How did God prophesize the current nation of Israel?
  • Why is Israel so central to biblical prophecy?
  • When the Scriptures say "last days" what does that mean?
  • What is the significance of Israel becoming a nation again in 1948?
  • What area of land was originally promised to Israel?
  • What is dispensationalism and is biblical?
  • Is there a future for Israel? Will all of Israel be saved?
  • Has Israel been replaced by the Church?
  • What does the “olive tree” analogy in Romans 11 mean?
  • Is Jesus coming "soon" and what should Christians focus on while waiting for His return?

There’s much more to cover, so stay tuned for a future episode as they continue the discussion about God's redemptive plan for Israel and explore the practical implications for Christians today. In the meantime, be sure to pre-order a copy of Pastor Furrow's new book, 'The Difficult Passages in Revelation: Navigating the Most Challenging Verses and Topics with Biblical Clarity'!

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, it seems like ever since my friend Charlie Kirk was murdered,

0:07.0

there's been a lot of talk on the internet, even by conservatives about Israel.

0:13.0

What is the deal with Israel? Is Israel really the same Israel that was in the Old Testament,

0:20.0

that's in the Bible, the modern state. Is that an extension

0:24.7

of what the Bible talks about? Is that modern state even part of what the Bible is talking about?

0:30.4

Is there a future for Israel? Has the church replaced Israel? We're going to dive into the Bible

0:36.3

today to talk about that because there's so

0:38.6

much confusion and so many different perspectives on this. We're going to go into the scriptures

0:44.9

and examine what we can examine and try and draw some conclusions about this. And in order to do

0:50.3

that, I have a very good friend of mine, Robert Furrow, who's been the pastor of Calvary Chapel,

0:56.8

Tucson for like a millennium, it seems almost. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen. Robert,

1:05.1

you're coming up, all right, enough for the audience, you're coming up on 50 years of being

1:09.2

the pastor at Calvary Chapel, Tucson. Is that right? Well, 41. This is, this, October will be 41. Oh, but you've been a Christian for 50 years. That's what I was. I've been a Christian for 50 years. Yeah. I was just reading a chapter in the new book. This is the new book. Won't be out till August, ladies and gentlemen. So we're not really selling the book at this point, but we want you to know about it. It's called the difficult passages in Revelation,

1:29.8

navigating the most challenging verses and topics

1:32.3

with biblical clarity. And why don't we just start, Robert, if we could, with something unique

1:41.9

that people just can't deny this about what happened in 1948 with regard to Israel.

1:49.5

You got something you want to say about that.

1:51.9

Let's just start there.

1:52.8

And then we'll get into all these other questions related to Israel.

1:55.2

Yeah.

1:55.5

And I think that's a good place to start.

1:57.0

An overall picture is that the Bible says that God is going to displace the people of Israel,

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