What Does The Bible Really Say About Divorce? | With Lysa Terkeurst and Joel Muddamalle
The Jennie Allen Podcast
Jennie Allen
4.8 • 6.1K Ratings
🗓️ 20 November 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Divorce was never the story Lisa TerKeurst wanted - but it became the story she had to live. In this powerful conversation, Jennie sits down with Lisa and theologian Dr. Joel Muddamalle to talk about unwanted divorce, what the Bible actually says about it, and how God meets us in the most devastating parts of our lives.
If you’ve walked through divorce, love someone who has, or feel paralyzed in a painful marriage, this episode is a tender mix of theology, story, and real hope. You’ll hear clearly: God does not hate you. He grieves with you, and your story is not over.
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| 0:00.0 | God does not hate you. He is not displeased with you, but he absolutely does grieve with you. |
| 0:05.0 | Acceptance is also saying, my life is going to look different. |
| 0:11.0 | Different does not mean bad. |
| 0:13.0 | Different just means different. Now, God, what do you have for me? me. |
| 0:26.5 | Hey everyone, it's Chloe. |
| 0:27.2 | Guess what? |
| 0:28.5 | We have big news. |
| 0:34.2 | Did you know that Jenny and our team are going on tour? |
| 0:40.2 | In 2026, Jenny is going to be traveling to cities across the country for a night of just worship, truth, scripture, and stories. Kind of like the olden days. Like Jenny used to do |
| 0:46.7 | what was called the Freedom Project tour years ago. And we missed it so much, like just going to |
| 0:53.1 | local churches, being with you face to face. |
| 0:55.6 | You're not going to want to miss it. |
| 0:57.1 | So tickets go on sale December 2nd. |
| 0:59.5 | Mark your calendar and head to jenny allen.com slash tour for all the details. |
| 1:04.1 | So tickets go on sale, December 2nd, mark your calendar, and head to jennyallon.com |
| 1:09.8 | slash tour for all details. |
| 1:16.9 | I mean, there are just gifts in this life that I get to lead. |
| 1:22.5 | And one of them is having really brilliant friends and friends that I just can't believe I get to know and call |
| 1:31.1 | friend. And two of them today are here. And we are going to talk about something so important |
| 1:37.0 | and very, very dear to my heart because people I love and are just some of the closest people to me on earth have walked through |
| 1:46.0 | what we're going to talk about. And I know so many of you have either walked through this or |
| 1:51.1 | you are very close to someone who has. And so I just am excited that we not only get such |
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