What Does Romans 9 REALLY Mean?

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

If God is sovereign, as the Bible says, then how can human beings have free will? Those who subscribe to certain sects of Calvinism might say that humans can't possibly have free will because God does all the choosing. But is that what Paul was really getting at when he penned the Book of Romans?This week's podcast episode dives into a listener's burning question about the context of Romans 9 and the doctrine of election. Does the Bible REALLY teach that God chooses some people for salvation and others for Hell? Does God harden hearts against our free will? Tune in as Frank tackles these questions and many more, including:* What questions should you ask when reading the Bible?* Did God really hate Esau? And does He hate people today?* What kind of Election is Romans 9 talking about?* If God knows what humans will choose, does that cancel free will?* What does a demonic goddess of Egypt have to do with any of this?* How does Romans 9 affirm the historicity of Moses?You may be predestined to hear this week's podcast episode because Frank will cover a lot of Scripture in a short amount of time, so grab a pen and your Bible! And if you want to learn even more about how to read Scripture the right way, enroll in our self-paced online course 'How to Interpret Your Bible (https://www.onlinechristiancourses.com/how-to-interpret-your-bible-occ-self-paced-course)' where you'll walk step by step through four simple keys to help you grasp the true meaning of Scripture in your personal study. And be sure you don't miss the next midweek podcast episode, where Frank will wrap up his final thoughts on this controversial passage!To view the entire VIDEO PODCAST, be sure to join our CrossExamined private community (https://community.crossexamined.org/). It’s the perfect place to jump into great discussions with like-minded Christians while providing financial support for our ministry.You can also SUPPORT THE PODCAST HERE.Resources mentioned during the episode:Podcast episode with Leighton Flowers: Free Will or Calvinism: Which Should You Choose? (https://crossexamined.org/free-will-or-calvinism-which-should-you-choose-with-dr-leighton-flowers)Leighton Flowers interview: UNMASKING the MYTH of Calvinism in ROMANS 9 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF1-IdO0RaA)YouTube channel: Soteriology 101 with Dr. Leighton Flowers (https://www.youtube.com/@Soteriology101)Debate: Leighton Flowers VS James White - Does John 6:44 Teach Unconditional Election? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8hFJJawS2M)

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0:00.0	Does truth exist?
0:03.0	Because you have faith, does that make this book true?
0:05.0	Does God exist?
0:07.0	So when someone says there is no truth, if you apply the claim to itself, what should you say?
0:13.7	Is that true?
0:15.5	They don't think Christianity's true.
0:18.6	They're talked out of it.
0:20.3	You know why they're talked out of it?
0:22.2	Because they've never been talked into it.
0:24.0	Cross-examining skeptical and apiistic views.
0:28.0	Welcome to Cross-Examine with Dr. Frank Turic.
0:32.0	How can God be sovereign and human beings be free?
0:38.0	Doesn't God elect just some to salvation and not others.
0:43.0	If God predestines us, do we really have free choice?
0:47.0	And doesn't God love some people but not others?
0:51.0	After all, in Romans chapter 9 it says this God says
0:56.2	Jacob I love but I sow I hated. This is a question that was sent in by John about Romans 9 and because of passages like this.
1:09.0	In fact, let me read a little bit more Romans 9 and then we'll get into it. God says,
1:14.3	Jacob I love, but he said how I hated. What shall we say is God unjust?
1:19.0	Not at all, Paul says, for he says to Moses, God says to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
1:25.8	and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.
1:28.2	It does not therefore depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. For the scripture says to
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