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🗓️ 31 August 2022
⏱️ 27 minutes
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0:00.0 | What's good, Joe? I'm Gene Tempe. |
0:01.5 | And I'm Karen Griggs-Rivates. |
0:03.2 | And this is Code Switch from MPR. |
0:07.1 | So you know on this show, we'd look at a lot of aspects of race, |
0:10.4 | and that includes whiteness. |
0:12.4 | And whenever we talk about race on the show, |
0:14.4 | we keep bumping up against the fact that whiteness is often invisible |
0:18.0 | to people who are white, |
0:20.2 | even though whiteness in their whiteness is not invisible or neutral |
0:23.3 | to those of us who aren't. |
0:25.3 | True. |
0:26.1 | So Gene, for this episode, |
0:27.5 | I talked to someone who's trying to make the way whiteness works |
0:31.4 | more visible for himself. |
0:33.5 | He talks about himself as a white person, |
0:36.2 | as opposed to just a person. |
0:38.2 | He's trying to make whiteness not the default for everything. |
0:42.0 | Okay, so who is this cat, KJB? |
0:44.6 | His name is Bannerd Woods. |
0:46.2 | He's a writer and journalist from South Carolina. |
0:49.8 | You know, for a state to secede, |
0:51.6 | one of the last states to remove the stars and bars from his flag. |
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