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In certain Latino families, there's a broad color spectrum.

My Dominican grandfather is Black and my aunt, which is his daughter, has pale white skin with

freckles. Maybe you're the one with pale skin and freckles. Oh she's the white girl of the

Peru for, you know, she's the white Latina. How do you identify? Do you think of yourself as white

as a person of color or just Latinx? It's difficult when I'm a light skin Latino.

Code Switch listener Brandon Mogurovejo wrote to us about a tense discussion he had with his wife

Christina when she told them she filled out the census for their household. He had this feeling

that she might have messed up because he is a lighter skin Latino and that might make things

confusing for her. Yeah, so he works really long hours because he's a medical resident.

So first I did mine and then I did his, but you know, we got to the topic of what race do you

identify as? I'm very particular about how I fill out the census. So I was like, oh well,

what did you put? And she's like, oh I put Hispanic Latino for ethnicity and I put white for race.

I was like, but you know I don't identify as white.

It for, for me it's confusing because I know he doesn't identify as white. So I think when I was going

through the question, I almost didn't know what to put because they don't really give you

an a good option. I'm trying to remember back, but you know, obviously they have like white

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