Christians hear things like social justice and, you know, racial justice.

And it's like, yeah, you know, of course, you know, we're for that.

Marriage equality.

Well, am I for marriage in equality?

And when you have weak and faulty worldviews and then seductive language, and then you have leaders with unclear voices, you end up in the mess that we're in.

Raised by a Buddhist single mom in Los Angeles, Dr. Vadi Baccombe came of age during the height of Malcolm Axe and felt a pull toward the growing black nationalist movement. However, a conversion to Christianity in college completely reshaped his worldview. Voddy is a skeptic who came to Christ, an outsider who speaks the language of outsiders, he is a man worthy of respect. Vadi is a former pastor,

author, and educator, currently serving as dean of the School of Divinity at African Christian

University in Lusaka, Zambia, a university that seeks to transform Africa through biblically

based education. Whether teaching on the history of the Bible or marriage and family, he aims

to help ordinary people understand the significance of seeing the world through a biblical lens. Anyone who's heard him preach knows his conviction of word and spirit,

he's unafraid to challenge the current social justice movement, continuously demonstrates the

Bible's enduring relevance without trying to reshape God in man's image. On this Sunday special,

I sit down with Voddy to discuss his unusual path to faith, biblical masculinity, and the woke pastors who have infiltrated Christian churches around the world.

Plus, he explains how he came to find his true calling, to live and teach in Africa.

This episode of Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special is sponsored by GenuSill. Go to genuSel.com slash Sunday right now and save over 70% off GenuSel's most popular package. Hey, hey, and welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro show. We are so excited to welcome Vody Bakum to the show. Vody, thanks so much for stopping by. I really appreciate it. Absolutely. It's my pleasure, man. So let's just jump right in. One of your big sort of causes is the fight over social justice. Obviously, the term

social justice is very contentious. So how do you define social justice and what do you think is wrong

with social justice? Yeah, I mean, I think social justice classically is defined as the redistribution of wealth, privileges,

and opportunities. Social justice is about equity, not equality, right? Not what we all grew up

with, you know, equal opportunity, but equity, equal outcomes.

So it's redistribution with a view toward achieving equal outcomes for various specified groups.

Again, there's a lot more, you know, involved in that, but that's the basic definition of it.

And how do you think that that comes into conflict?

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