What Does It Cost to Finally Feel Safe? with Lilan Bowden

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox, Open Mike Eagle, and Andrew Steven

Business, Performing Arts, Arts, Society & Culture

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Actress and comedian Lilan Bowden joins us to talk about what it actually feels like to come out the other side, and why financial safety doesn't automatically mean financial peace. From barista shifts and transcription gigs to booking a Disney Channel series, Lilan gets honest about the bills she still can't bring herself to open, the shame that kept her moving forward, and what it means to build a life around brunch when you used to skip toothpaste. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This episode is brought to you by Vanta.
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0:30.9	What does it mean to be a working actor who finally feels financially safe and still can bring yourself to open the mail.
0:38.4	This week we're talking to Lelon Bowden, actress, comedian, podcaster, and someone who spent
0:43.2	years cobbling together, barista shifts, transcription gigs, and assistant jobs just to keep
0:48.9	the lights on.
0:50.3	We talk about how financial trauma lives in the body and what it actually looks like to
0:53.9	slowly, awkwardly learn how to spend money again after years of pinching every penny.
0:59.4	The creative economy is broken, but some people are still making it work.
1:03.9	We're here to find out how.
1:05.9	I'm Anna Marie Cox.
1:07.2	And I'm open Mike Eagle, and this is past due.
1:15.7	Thank you for joining us, Lelon.
1:18.5	We have a question we open with every time we die right in.
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