Hey, it's Liz Kelly and welcome to the Ringer Podcast Network. The Ringer is launching a new

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utterly bizarre corners of the baseball world and everything that makes it special.

Throughout the off season, they'll dive into the rabbit hole on some of their favorite

vaccinations from the home run derby to baseball brawls and much more. Once the season returns,

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Be special show we have today, man. People are really excited for this. Chris, we've been doing

this podcast for over eight years. I dare say people are treating today's show with special guest

normal people's Paul Mescolez, the biggest get we've ever gotten. I know. We've had some historic

gets in the past. Gosh, I mean, like you go through the names, like, you know, Spoon's Brit Daniel.

I had Lindsey Buckingham. That's true.

That's a big one. Anthony Bourdain. Yeah. I mean, we've had some heavy hitters,

but maybe nobody as heavy as Paul Mescolez, who is on the show today. We talked to him

across the pond about normal people, about playing connoble, about really like being in Jamie

shadow, physically, sexually, in terms of like his cloud score fan response, fan response,

just people kind of like forgetting about connoble as they're watching normal people just because

they're so distracted by Jamie's, you know, significance. And I got to say, Chris, like, you know

me that I am not a superficial guy. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, is he good looking? Maybe,

maybe I don't notice handsome, but what I responded to was that Paul was a lovely fellow.

And a good sport. And it was really fun to talk to him. And, you know, am I regretting that

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